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I never see ocean master mentioned when and discussion of Tiers for boats are mentioned on THT. I also never see the name mentioned amongst the best center consoles. Has Ocean Master become irrelevant, is their design and technology behind the new curve? I would love to hear the opinions of all especially actually Ocean Master owners. And are the boats priced on the High or the low end of the Center Console curve. If the 31Bahama represents the high end of pricing, the 30 Sail Fish the middle, and the 31 Capehorn represents the low end of pricing.
I have a 31' and, think Ocean Master is among one of the best center console manufacturers. A surveyor gave a replacement value of 175K for my boat (bought used for far less) so I would think it's in the higher end of the pricing spectrum. Design and technology irrelevant? I do not think so. A solid boat that runs well in rough seas is always popular and, when rigged right, I've yet to see a boat better designed for my styles of fishing (mostly swordfishing and kitefishing for sailfish). Perhaps the lack of popularity (but certainly not Bayliner's type of lack of popularity) stems from the nature (as I've observed it) of many fishing and boating forums. Simply put, many online boaters seem to be of the weekend warrior persuasion (nothing wrong with that) and caught up in a nautical game of "keeping up with the Joneses." New, shiny, expensive, and not so expensive brands come along and everyone jumps aboard (figuratively speaking) the new and exciting brands that keeps the market moving along. I've been guilty of it myself (drooling over the Conch 33). But this fixation on newer, more popular brands, alienates new or more casual boaters from older designs that have withstood the test of time. Simultaneously, a brand like Ocean Master typically sells to individuals that have owned numerous boats, have a number of years boating, and/or are hardcore/commercial fishermen typically not willing to "hang out" with more casual and less accomplished fishermen (as is the perception of those who frequent online boards). I think these individuals are less interested in online forums where the Ocean Master brand could be trumpeted above other newer manufacturers. Therefore, the type of boater typically found online doesn't really know about Ocean Masters while Ocean Master owners avoid online discussion. Just a thought...
Anyway, if you'd like, I can e-mail you pictures of mine so you can see how she's rigged, etc.
I have a 31' and, think Ocean Master is among one of the best center console manufacturers. A surveyor gave a replacement value of 175K for my boat (bought used for far less) so I would think it's in the higher end of the pricing spectrum. Design and technology irrelevant? I do not think so. A solid boat that runs well in rough seas is always popular and, when rigged right, I've yet to see a boat better designed for my styles of fishing (mostly swordfishing and kitefishing for sailfish). Perhaps the lack of popularity (but certainly not Bayliner's type of lack of popularity) stems from the nature (as I've observed it) of many fishing and boating forums. Simply put, many online boaters seem to be of the weekend warrior persuasion (nothing wrong with that) and caught up in a nautical game of "keeping up with the Joneses." New, shiny, expensive, and not so expensive brands come along and everyone jumps aboard (figuratively speaking) the new and exciting brands that keeps the market moving along. I've been guilty of it myself (drooling over the Conch 33). But this fixation on newer, more popular brands, alienates new or more casual boaters from older designs that have withstood the test of time. Simultaneously, a brand like Ocean Master typically sells to individuals that have owned numerous boats, have a number of years boating, and/or are hardcore/commercial fishermen typically not willing to "hang out" with more casual and less accomplished fishermen (as is the perception of those who frequent online boards). I think these individuals are less interested in online forums where the Ocean Master brand could be trumpeted above other newer manufacturers. Therefore, the type of boater typically found online doesn't really know about Ocean Masters while Ocean Master owners avoid online discussion. Just a thought...
Anyway, if you'd like, I can e-mail you pictures of mine so you can see how she's rigged, etc.
gotta agree with everything i just read !!
the ocean master boats are very well constructed.they're a heavy,super sea worthy beast !! they lack the flash and smooth lines of a fountain,but they're every bit as sea worthy,if not more than their flashy counterparts..excellent boat,went for a run to the wilmington canyon on one quite a few years ago,the boat rode great and was real fast too...a solid no nonsense rig !!!
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I had my first OM 15 years ago currently I have 2 31CC been using them for charter business in the Red Sea my last trip was 700nm trip over 10 days, owned GW/Mako/Yamaha/Dusky/BW/Yellow fin/Blackfin(Vgood) just nothing like am OM nothing gave the confidant to go long trips (In one of the hottest most challenging Marine environment in the planet with no supporting facilities for boating) like an OM,
My first contact with Mark(the owner/manager of OM) was in 1988 and I visited the factory and meet him in person in 2004 all this time he just never advertised in any media the max he did we the web site and it is not even good or flashy like other BS boats do. So beside magazines reviews there is no media espouser
Why he need to advertise he is always sold out!! I can't remember when but I friend asked me to buy him an OM and when I talked to Mark he had one year waiting list and I end up buying him a used one I think it was in 93 or 94.
Just go to his web site to know more about his philosophy
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I can still remember vividly the first one I ever saw (or heard of).. Philadelphia boat show in 1986... On sale at $49,995 with 200 Mercs.... I remember the year because I bought a new 21 Biddison that year... Loved it from the moment I spotted it sittin on the floor. Only other boat that was similar at the time was the Rybo-Runner. Next time I saw it was that summer a couple canals over from me, same guy still owns it, has been through a bunch of Mercs over the years. The guy has a rep of running the pizz out of it too. Altho you didn't ask, but I'll interject: I've always felt the GW306 Bimini is a highly refined version of a OM31 and would be my 1st choice.
I remember over 20 years ago when I saw my first OM I thought it was a beast, It was the first real canyon CC I had seen. I just never hear anyone talk about the boat anymore, I wasn't sure if it had fallen off the face. When I do see one these days it's never a new shiny one, I see a salty dog on a boat that looks like it's been in the game for awhile. Have they made any major modifications from the original 31. What does the 31 go for with twin 4 strokes and all the bells and whistles?
Also very important with the new 4's does it get 1.5 mpg at optimum cruise?
fillet of soul - 9/11/2006 8:00 AM I remember over 20 years ago when I saw my first OM I thought it was a beast, It was the first real canyon CC I had seen. I just never hear anyone talk about the boat anymore, I wasn't sure if it had fallen off the face. When I do see one these days it's never a new shiny one, I see a salty dog on a boat that looks like it's been in the game for awhile. Have they made any major modifications from the original 31. What does the 31 go for with twin 4 strokes and all the bells and whistles? Also very important with the new 4's does it get 1.5 mpg at optimum cruise?
Kerno, I currently own nothing. I have owned a sears gamefisherman 15, BW 18 outrage, BW 22 outrage, Blackfin FB with 375 Cats, and the last boat I owned a 26 REG. I'm in the process of having back procedures hopefully the last one I will have in April will allow me to get back to fishing and buying another boat. I haven't owned a boat since 2002. I have always held OM in high regard eventhough I have absolutely no familiarity with them.
Thanks for the kind and quick response. A current thread discusses the fuel usage of the 31 with a pair of 2 stroke 250's and it is about 1 nmpg. In the current world of gas prices, 1 nmpg is about like taking two taxicabs to the fishing spot. As you know, there are some significant tradeoffs in hull design. More deadrise means a better ride, but at the expense of fuel. It remains to be seen how long the average recreational boater will continue to shop for boats that cost a thousand dollars to go to and from the canyons. In Maui, fuel is about $1.00 higher than the gulf coast area. Fortunately, a long run for us is 30 miles. I've looked at the cats because of their ride characteristics, but fuel usage is not one of their selling points. My last three ocean boats were as follows: I had a Parker 25 with Merc 150's that was quick, nimble and got superb gas mileage. I sold it and bought a Stamas 29 Tarpon with Honda 225's, which was the roomiest 29 out there. The low deadrise and Maui's rough water was not the greatest combination, but the boat had a fair ride and got about 2 nmpg. I recently bought a Jupiter 31 with twin Yami 225's. It is still in the process of getting to Maui, but I expect about 1.5 nmpg and a good ride. If it turns out to be a 1 nmpg wonder, we'll be getting a new artificial reef!
I like the 31 Jupiter congrats on your new boat. Did you investigate the usual suspects, Contender. Sea Vee, REG, Southport, and Bahama which is the nicest looking CC i've seen but the price if money is a concern was a bit painful. 1 nmg if that's the real world burn i would get with the OM would be a high price to pay for me, does anyone put the new 4's on the boat and get much improved economy?
Yeah, but at 1 nmpg and $4.00 per gallon, a 30 mile run becomes a 60 mile round trip and suddenly becomes $ 240.00. I can afford it, ok? But it still p*ss*s me off. I go out there to enjoy myself - and I do. I just don't enjoy getting the credit card statement at the end of the month. Nobody can pretend that sport caught fish or lobster cost less than the store bought stuff. I like what I catch better, but $240.00 buys a heck of a nice dinner with no fish scales on the driveway.
fillet of soul - 9/9/2006 8:52 PM
I also never see the name mentioned amongst the best center consoles. Has Ocean Master become irrelevant, is their design and technology behind the new curve?
Not much changed in boat building for the better since the 1970's. Most of the recreational hull designs today are based on (or splashed off) the hulls of the 60's and 70's. Frankly many of the hulls built then are far superior to todays boats. OceanMasters are very cabable and seaworthy, but they are hard riding boats (especially the 31).
overbuild and excelent finish.Mark harpner the owner still overlooks each hull built.I have picts of the molds and of the plant but cant post them,Pm me if you want to see them
I have read a few comments about the hard ride on the 31 OM. Could the OM owners of that vessel comment on the validity of that comment, and is there a big difference on the ride of the 34 OM?
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