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Old 06-07-2006, 12:50 PM
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Default Eastern 22

Ive been checking out the web site and really like the look of the eastern 22, lobster model but have never seen one in person. Just wondering about the build quality and longevity of the boats. The boat would be a fishing and family cruser used just a couple miles off shore. How wet of a boat is it? Does it compare to a Stieger?
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I narrowed my recent boat purchase down to the Eastern 22 Lobster, Steiger 22 DV, and Ocean Scout Bristol 23.
I went w/ Ocean Scout.
My impressions of the Eastern:
Real well made solid boat. They are willing to customize it for you, for a price. I didn't really want a displacement type hull. I think that's what it is considered. Recommended motors were 90 or 115 HP. They are supposed to get great gas mileage but they were not able to give me real world customer MPG, Cruise speed, or top end. Also concerned about towing the kids on tubes, ski's, wakeboards, etc. Seems like a real solid boat w/good resale value.

Steiger:
I went to their facility on Long Island an was impressed with their boats. Seem real solid, but I was surprised by some rougher than expected fit and finish. Nothing major mostly minor things. I really liked the new 22 DV which seems like a much larger boat w/ the 8'6" beam. Recommended power was 225 4 stroke which gets the higher motor cutout needed for the Long Island Sound. I was concerned w/ gas mileage being on the low side. Biggest drawback of the 22 DV Chesapeake was no lockable storage. Since I'll be keeping it in a slip that is a must for me.

Either of these are real nice boats from good companies. It just depends what you're looking for. If you're local I would visit the 2 facilities and speak with Jake at Eastern or the VP at Steiger ( can't remember his name ) both real nice guys who will answer your questions without ending the sentence in " What do I need to do to put you in this boat today?"

The Ocean Scout seemed a better fit for me and Greg and Steve have been great about building the boat out exactly the way I want. I also called 3 current owners who were all positive.

Good luck with your purchase!

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IMO -- The Easterns I've looked at are very well built, rugged boats, with a good finish. Almost bought one. However, I don't think that they are as pretty as some other DE styles in that size. If you want a boat with a nicer sheer line and more bow flare, check out the Sisu 22 or the Webbers Cove 22. I believe that Lowell Bros. is building the Sisu 22 again, and Rosborough also builds off of a Sisu 22 mold. If you buy a 22', I would get it with an outboard on a bracket, rather than an inboard engine or a transom mounted engine -- this will give you a lot more space in the cockpit to move around. Have not had a chance to inspect Steigers up close.

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Old 06-07-2006, 04:12 PM
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JKN,

The 22 is a planing hull the 24 is a displacement hull. The 24 is the 22' Sisu mold stretched 2 feet. Very Seaworthy if you can get use to the ride. The 22' planes nicely, but will go like a rocket if powered with a 135 HP or greater.

JAT a THT user will throw in soon I'm sure. He just dumped his 22 Eastern for a small CC.
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Old 06-07-2006, 05:01 PM
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Yes I did downsize my E22 to a Blue Fin Cuttyhunk 19 cc

E22 wasn't the right boat for me...

My E22 had a 90hp - honestly, not quite enough horses...Will a 90 work? yes...Would I recommend it from the get go (new)? no...Used E22? probably yes

You mentioned 'family'...The freeboard is too low...This can be improved with rails but add $$$...Fishing all day with knees resting against the gunwales will cause discomfort...

Definitely definitely definitely get the pull-up (not pop-up) cleats!!! The mid-ship placements of the standard cleats will cause you pain when you snub your toes...(yes you will)...

Steiger people tell story why they install pull-ups vs pop-ups vs standard...No give with standard cleats and pop-ups pop up heading to bow but don't pop back when returning aft...OUCH!!!...
They install pull-ups on their boats...

IMO, the spray rail on Es should be molded into hull...I think Steigers and Seaways and Jones Bros do...Having the spray rails molded eliminates the potential issue with screws...Also, you will be surprise how much growth builds up between rail and hull...

Speaking of Seaways, their 21 is a sharp looking boat...wider beam than Es...

Easterns can compete for 2 basic reasons, 1-price and 2-appearances...If you like the downeast look then you can easily fall in love with Es...

JKN mentioned Ocean Scout...OS is another good choice...

Eastern - been there done that not interested in another (at least not new)

Steiger - very nice but too rich for this Gilligan

Ocean Scout - wished I heard of this company when looking at E

Seaway - priced higher than E but worth a look...more bells and whistles - wider beam

Whatever you decide - talk to owners and sea trail all boats...

Carry on,

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JAT,
Good Info. I did however on my Eastern have a coaming built in with pads to give more cockpit depth & something to lean against while jigging cod fish. I believe the gentleman that bought my boat will kick in here soon. He made some modifications including a way to retrieve his anchor without approaching the bow. Used Easterns are certainly in demand.
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I agree that low freeboard can be an issue. My Sisu was of the bass boat style so it had the coaming on each side that started from the stern and then swept up to the windshield/cuddy - kept the kids from falling out.

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Phil C,

Agreed, this is common of many of that style boat. The Seaway is the same way. This can be easily addressed, and it adds character too.


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I like the padded bolsters in your cockpit. Looks good. Low freeboard is great for hauling traps but not as helpful fishing.

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Phil,

An x-lobsterman, now brokering boats (www.billyoliverboats.com) visited my E22 last fall as he had my listing...He pointed out the free-board on the my E22 was a little low for hauling pots...If you haul pots then it's a matter of opinion...

If you are getting your information from Eastern then take it with a gain of salt...They told me the samething about the freeboard...

Check out Billy's website...He has some sweet downeast vessels...Billy is a super guy and knows his stuff...

BTW, earlier I stated Jones Brothers having a molded spray guards...They may but I should have stated Judge...

Judge took the Eastern mold and improved it, i.e. molded spray guards...

Judge is another great downeast choice...More $$$ than Es but they (imo) made some great improvements...For the $$$ you can see what your extra dollars are buying...

Carry on,

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JAT is correct. Eastern will sell you the boat but you as the buyer need to get creative and do things and build the boat the way you will use and run the boat.
Case-N-Point: I put a single station leaning post at the helm. The Todd chairs are useless IMHO on this boat. You need to stand to see the bow, seas,...You can still sit on the leaning post but underway you mainly stand.

Don't get me wrong, they are great boats!!! Build it your way!!

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