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Old 05-17-2006, 12:57 PM
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Default Mercury Marine’s View of Ethanol - NOT GOOD!!!!

This is the best write up I have seen. Makes it all make sense. There is a pic of the phase separation here http://www.mercurymarine.com/ethanol


Mercury Marine’s View of Ethanol F.A.Q.
Mercury Marine remains very active in developing a thorough understanding of important issues and environments in which our products must operate. Mercury's engineers work constantly to expand our understanding of fuel technologies and their interactions with all Mercury products to ensure they perform properly and reliably. Mercury personnel work in concert with industry groups, such as the National Marine Manufacturers Association (NMMA), to offer input into the overall processes by which many decisions are made regarding fuel regulations and energy policies so future problems are minimized and future developments are beneficial to those who utilize our products.

Included below is a list of questions and answers that address typical concerns of consumers.

Please feel free to contact any Mercury Marine field representative with questions, or contact us at public.relations@mercmarine.com. Mercury will do its best to help find answers, whether you're seeking general information or wishing to discuss legal proposals, or if you're seeking information regarding ethanol-tolerant materials.


What are ethanol and ethanol-blended fuels?
How is ethanol made?
What are the characteristics of ethanol?
What is MTBE and why is it being replaced?
Does ethanol affect horsepower or fuel-efficiency?
Are Mercury engines compatible with ethanol fuels?
Will the use of fuels containing ethanol void my engine warranty?
What about the fuel-system components on the boat?
Can ethanol-blended fuels affect the performance of two-stroke engines?
How does ethanol affect my fiberglass fuel tank?
Are older fuel lines prone to failure? What about gaskets?
Ethanol is replacing MTBE in my region? What should I do?
Should I add an additional fine-micron filter to the system to prevent debris from entering the engine?
How can a marina prepare for the change from MTBE to ethanol as the fuel oxygenate?
What is phase separation, and how do I deal with it?
Is an additive available that can prevent phase separation?
Are there any additives that can allow the phase-separated mixture to remix when added to the fuel tank?
Is there a simple solution to water condensation in the tank as a result of ethanol?
What should be done when storing boats with ethanol-blended fuels for extended periods?
What are ethanol and ethanol-blended fuels?


Ethanol for fuel is highly refined beverage (grain) alcohol, approximately 200 proof, that can be produced from natural products such as corn, sugar cane and wheat. New technology will allow ethanol to be made from “cellulosic” feedstocks including corn stalks, grain straw, paper, pulp, wood chips, municipal waste, switchgrass and other sources. Ethanol used for fuel has been “denatured,” or rendered unsafe to drink by the addition of a hydrocarbon (usually gasoline). The ethanol-blended fuel E-10 refers to fuel that contains 10 percent ethanol and 90 percent gasoline. Similarly, E-85 refers to fuel that contains 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline. E-85 is intended only for engines specially designed to accept high-ethanol content fuel blends, such as the Flexible Fuel Vehicles (FFV) made by some car companies.

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How is ethanol made?


In the U.S., ethanol is typically produced by removing the starch or sugar portion of corn and fermenting it. The fermented starch is then distilled into alcohol. Excess water is removed, resulting in very pure – 200 proof – ethyl alcohol (ethanol).

In some parts of the world, ethanol is made from a variety of raw materials. For example, sugar cane is used to produce ethanol in Brazil, while sugar beets and wheat straw are commonly used in Europe.

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What are the characteristics of ethanol?


Ethanol is an oxygenated hydrocarbon compound that has a high octane rating and therefore is useful in increasing the octane level of unleaded gasoline. The EPA, the agency responsible for setting some of the requirements for all gasoline used in the U.S., has allowed the use of ethanol in gasoline at levels up to 10 percent as an octane enhancer and to provide beneficial clean-burning combustion characteristics that help improve some emissions.

Ethanol is hygroscopic (it has an attraction for water) and will more readily mix with water than with gasoline. It has different solvency behaviors than does gasoline, which allows it to loosen rust and debris that might lay undisturbed in fuel systems. And it can more readily remove plasticizers and resins from certain plastic materials that might not be affected by gasoline alone. Loose debris will plug filters and can interfere with engine operation. Additionally, ethanol is corrosive to some metals, especially in combination with water. Although gasoline does not conduct electricity well, ethanol has an appreciable capability to conduct electricity and therefore can promote galvanic corrosion.

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What is MTBE and why is it being replaced?


MTBE is the chemical shorthand description for methyl tertiary-butyl ether. MTBE is another oxygenated hydrocarbon compound that has a high octane rating. It was initially a preferred compound widely used for octane enhancement as a replacement for leaded compounds in gasoline. When the EPA developed regulations requiring oxygenated gasoline to help reduce smog in several areas of the country, MTBE was the most commonly used compound to supply the additional oxygen, while ethanol was chosen for this purpose in the Midwest region of the country. Recently, most states have banned the use of MTBE because of its tendency to work its way into ground water systems, usually from leaks and spills, as an undesirable contaminant. Ethanol is being used as a replacement.

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Does ethanol affect horsepower or fuel-efficiency?


Ethanol has a heating value of 76,000 BTU per gallon, which is approximately 30 percent less than gasoline's heating value (which is approximately 109,000 to 119,000 BTU/gal). The result is E-10 gasoline should yield slightly lower mileage – a decrease of approximately 3 percent. Fuels containing higher levels of ethanol will have a corresponding reduction in mileage. For example, E85 fuels produce mileage approximately 30 percent less than gasoline.

The octane rating of pure ethanol (200 proof) is about 100 and is therefore useful in elevating the octane value of gasoline. In E-10 blends the presence of ethanol provides about 2.5 to 3 percent of the overall octane rating. The effect on engine horsepower is determined by the octane result of the blended fuel. Care should be taken to select fuels having the octane rating recommended for the engine as indicated in the owner's manual for proper operation.

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Are Mercury engines compatible with ethanol fuels?


The fuel-system components of Mercury engines will withstand up to 10 percent alcohol content in gasoline – the maximum level currently allowed by the EPA in the U.S. There are some efforts to establish E-20 (20 percent ethanol mixed with 80 gasoline) for use in some areas, but that will require agreement from EPA to grant a waiver. Part of the EPA waiver process will require verification from studies that demonstrate that higher levels of ethanol do not create problems with fuel-system materials or operation of hardware. E-20 has not been extensively studied by Mercury and is not acceptable for use in Mercury products. E-85 fuels must not be used in any Mercury engines and could seriously damage current Mercury products. It is not legal in the U.S. to market any ethanol fuel as gasoline if it contains more than 10 percent ethanol.

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Will the use of fuels containing ethanol void my engine warranty?


Fuels containing up to 10 percent ethanol are considered acceptable for use in Mercury engines. Fuels containing higher levels of ethanol are not considered acceptable for use, and the use of fuels containing ethanol higher than 10 percent can void the warranty.

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What about the fuel-system components on the boat?


It is important to follow boat manufacturers' recommendations when selecting appropriate fuels. Use of an inappropriate fuel can result in damage to the engine and boat components that may require repair or replacement. Fuels with ethanol can attack some fuel-system components, such as tanks and lines, if they are not made from acceptable ethanol-compatible materials. This can lead to operational problems or safety issues such as clogged filters, leaks or engine damage.

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Can ethanol-blended fuels affect the performance of two-stroke engines?


Two-stroke outboards should experience little or no decrease in performance due to gasoline fuels containing up to 10-percent ethanol when operated according to Mercury's standard recommendations. When gasoline with ethanol is used for the first time after a fuel changeover from MTBE, the tank must be completely dry prior to introduction of gasoline with ethanol. Otherwise, phase separation could occur that could cause filter plugging or damage to the engine. If an engine is a 1990 or older model frequent inspections of all fuel-system components are advised to identify any signs of leakage, softening, hardening, swelling or corrosion. If any sign of leakage or deterioration is observed, replacement of the affected components is required before further operation.

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How does ethanol affect my fiberglass fuel tank?


Fiberglass tanks manufactured prior to 1991 may not be compatible with gasoline containing ethanol. It has been reported that, in the presence of ethanol, some resins may be drawn out of fiberglass and carried into the engine where severe damage could occur. If an older fiberglass tank is used, check with the manufacturer to determine if gasoline with ethanol can be safely used.

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Are older fuel lines prone to failure? What about gaskets?


During the 1980s, many rubber components for use in fuel systems were developed to withstand exposure to fuels containing ethanol. If rubber components in a fuel system are suspected to be of this vintage or older it may be advisable to replace them with newer ethanol-safe components before using fuels containing ethanol. Check with the manufacturer for advice or frequently inspect these fuel-system components for signs of swelling or deterioration and replace if problems are noted.

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Ethanol is replacing MTBE in my region? What should I do?


Before gasoline with ethanol is introduced to your fuel tank, ask your boat manufacturer if any special precautions should be considered with the use of fuel containing ethanol. Check for the presence of water in the fuel tank. If any is found, remove all water and dry the tank completely. As a precaution, it is advisable to carry a few extra filters in case filter plugging becomes a problem during boating.

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Should I add an additional fine-micron filter to the system to prevent debris from entering the engine?


The addition of another filter to the system will create another possible flow restriction that can starve the engine of fuel. Mercury already provides the appropriate level of filtration to protect the engine from debris.

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How can a marina prepare for the change from MTBE to ethanol as the fuel oxygenate?


Check with the manufacturer to make certain the tank and lines won't experience problems with ethanol. Inspect the tank for water and, if present, pump out all water and thoroughly clean the tank. Install ethanol-compatible filters. The tank should be less than 20 percent full before adding the first load of fuel with ethanol.

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What is phase separation, and how do I deal with it?


If significant amounts of water are present in a fuel tank with gasoline that contains ethanol, the water will be drawn into the fuel until the saturation point is reached for the three-component mixture of water + gasoline + ethanol. Beyond this level of water, phase separation could cause most of the ethanol and water to separate from the bulk fuel and drop to the bottom of the tank, leaving gasoline with a significantly reduced level of ethanol in the upper phase (see Figure 1 below). If the lower phase of water and ethanol is large enough to reach the fuel inlet, it could be pumped directly to the engine and cause significant problems. Even if the ethanol water phase at the bottom of the tank is not drawn into the fuel inlet, the reduced ethanol level of the fuel reduces the octane rating by as much as 3 octane numbers, which could result in engine problems.

The level at which phase separation can occur is determined by a number of variables, including the amount of ethanol, the composition of the fuel, the temperature of the environment and the presence of contaminants. It is very important (A) that the system is inspected for significant quantities of water in the tank before using gasoline with ethanol and (B) to limit exposure of the fuel tank to excess water. If phase separation has occurred, it is necessary to completely remove all free water from the system and replace the fuel before continuing operation. Otherwise, engine problems could occur.



Figure 1: Sample of fuel from fuel tank in which phase separation has occurred. The upper phase is gasoline with a reduced level of ethanol. The lower level is a mixture of ethanol and water.

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Is an additive available that can prevent phase separation?


There is no practical additive that can prevent phase separation from occurring. The only practical solution is to keep water from accumulating in the tank in the first place.

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Are there any additives that can allow the phase-separated mixture to remix when added to the fuel tank?


No, the only way to avoid further problems is to remove the water, dispose of the depleted fuel, clean the tank and start with a fresh, dry load of fuel.

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Is there a simple solution to water condensation in the tank as a result of ethanol?


It is best to maintain a full tank of fuel when the engine is not in use. This will reduce the void space above the fuel and will reduce the flow of air in and out of the tank with changes in temperature. This will reduce condensation on the internal walls of the tank and will limit exposure of the ethanol in the fuel to humidity and condensation.

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What should be done when storing boats with ethanol-blended fuels for extended periods?


When preparing to store a boat for extended periods of two months or more, it is best to completely remove all fuel from the tank. If it is difficult or not possible to remove the fuel, maintaining a full tank of fuel with a fuel stabilizer added to provide fuel stability and corrosion protection is recommended. A partially full tank is not recommended because the void space above the fuel allows air movement that can bring in water through condensation as the temperature cycles up and down. This condensation potentially becomes a problem. Mercury Marine Fuel System Treatment & Stabilizer can help maintain fuel systems in storage. It contains oxidation inhibitors to reduce oxidation and gum formation, metal chelating agents to protect metal components from corrosion, water absorbing agents to reduce the presence of free water, and dispersants to help suspend and disperse debris. It is best used by adding to the tank at the recommended dosage, running the engine for 10 minutes to allow the system to be cleaned, shutting off the fuel valve to interrupt the fuel supply and allow the engine to run until it stops, topping off the tank until it's full, and capping any openings to reduce the amount of exchange with the air that might bring in condensation.

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Old 05-17-2006, 01:16 PM
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Mercury cut and pasted that from another source as reference material, so I would not put my head out there saying that is "their view", or that it is "negative"
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So at the very bottom of the article, Mercury Marine suggest that you run your engine dry if storing for a long period of time.
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Even if Mercury did CUT and PASTE that information rom somewhere else, wouldn't the fact that they put it on the Company website be good enough to KNOW that it is "their view"?

Mercury is saying that anything over 10% ethanol may cause problems with their product because they haven't been tested.
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This is paraphrased from my Crusader shop manual, printed around 1989:

Crusader will not honor its warrantee for damage caused by running the engine on ANY mixture of methanol or ethanol. It explains the problem and rational as the fact that any alcohol blends will absorb atmospheric moisture and eventually will cause phase separation resulting in water/water and alcohol/alcohol and then gas layer in the tank (bottom up). Since the fuel pickup is sucking from the bottom, each layer will be consumed in ascending order. Water seperators may get the water out, but at some point, there is a high probability that a quantity of semi-pure alcohol will be consumed by the engine. Being a solvent, the alcohol will wash the oil off the valve stems and cylinder walls which will cause catastrophic damage to the valves, head, cylinder walls, pistons and rings. (This problem is not believed to effect automobiles becasue of the smaller tank capacities and shorter time periods between tank fillings.)

Seems pretty straight forward to me; no warranty if using ethanol or methanol in this age engine (not that its still under warrantee anyway.) After reading the above, now I'll add that if the engine survives the alcohol bath, the lowered octane gas will knock it out (pun intended).

On another note, I'm glad they cleared it up that you can't drink the alcohol even if it separates. I was hoping for a silver lining to this darker cloud, but I guess not.
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From that FAQ's - " .....the only way to avoid further problems is to remove the water, dispose of the depleted fuel....." "Depleted" fuel disposal sounds like an opportunity for some entrepreneur to target boaters and make $$$. I wonder what depleted fuel could be refined in to???
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Something that's missing on our marine fuel systems is a tank design featuring a sump drain. Having one would make it easy to check for water before each trip. The limited clearance between the bottom of the tank and the bilge would pose some design challenges but I think it is possible.

FWIW, on light airplanes, sumping the tanks to check for water is a standard preflight practice. There is also at least one additional sump drain at the lowest point in the fuel system.
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I don't know but I poured my junk moisture ridden fuel into my mower and jeep wrangler. Mowed the lawn tonight and she did not like it one bit. Kept trying to backfire. Think I better pull the crap from the jeep now.

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From that FAQ's - " .....the only way to avoid further problems is to remove the water, dispose of the depleted fuel....." "Depleted" fuel disposal sounds like an opportunity for some entrepreneur to target boaters and make $$$. I wonder what depleted fuel could be refined in to???
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I have not changed over yet. I usually run about two miles to my fishing grounds, so I was thinking about carrying an extra 6 gallons of gas and running the boat dry of the current fuel and then putting the six gallons in of the e10 and then continuing on my way. I have a few concerns with this.
1. I mainly boat inside the Jetties in the Houston Ship Channel and don't what to loose power for long while changing over.
2. I don't want water (that has possible settled to the bottom of the tank) run through the motor.

So, I probably will not take a risk and get rid of the fuel that is in the tank (approx 10 gallons) and switch over.
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Something that's missing on our marine fuel systems is a tank design featuring a sump drain. Having one would make it easy to check for water before each trip. The limited clearance between the bottom of the tank and the bilge would pose some design challenges but I think it is possible.

FWIW, on light airplanes, sumping the tanks to check for water is a standard preflight practice. There is also at least one additional sump drain at the lowest point in the fuel system.
Sump drains are not allowed (per USCG regs and ABYC standards) on marine fuel tanks due to leakage risks.

You can, however, extend your pickups all the way to the bottom of the tank which is almost as good. There is a LOT of debate on this with regards to diesel boats - my view is that I'd prefer to have the gunk in my filters than in the tank, as if its in the tank it will show up in the filters - and potentially kill an engine - at the worst possible time.

The one time I cannot afford to have trash from the bottom of the tank ending up in the pickup is in heavy seas while running an inlet - exactly when it is likely to happen if your picks are above the sump bottom.
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This is paraphrased from my Crusader shop manual, printed around 1989:

Crusader will not honor its warrantee for damage caused by running the engine on ANY mixture of methanol or ethanol. It explains the problem and rational as the fact that any alcohol blends will absorb atmospheric moisture and eventually will cause phase separation resulting in water/water and alcohol/alcohol and then gas layer in the tank (bottom up). Since the fuel pickup is sucking from the bottom, each layer will be consumed in ascending order. Water seperators may get the water out, but at some point, there is a high probability that a quantity of semi-pure alcohol will be consumed by the engine. Being a solvent, the alcohol will wash the oil off the valve stems and cylinder walls which will cause catastrophic damage to the valves, head, cylinder walls, pistons and rings. (This problem is not believed to effect automobiles becasue of the smaller tank capacities and shorter time periods between tank fillings.)

Seems pretty straight forward to me; no warranty if using ethanol or methanol in this age engine (not that its still under warrantee anyway.) After reading the above, now I'll add that if the engine survives the alcohol bath, the lowered octane gas will knock it out (pun intended).

On another note, I'm glad they cleared it up that you can't drink the alcohol even if it separates. I was hoping for a silver lining to this darker cloud, but I guess not.

But those of us who have boated in the midwest with ethanol fuels for years have not had any of these problems. My previous boat in Illinos was stored for 2 years due to health issues and ran fine. Tank had been left full. I can see the potential for problems with switching over ie. gunk getting from tank into filters and engine. I dont see a problem with its use otherwise though. We would have seen these problems and never did.
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One other point about re using your old fuel in a car/lawnmower. These motors do not have water seperators, so I would advise against doing it.
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The safest thing to do with funky fuel would be to run it in your mower. Disposal of hazardous waste (gasoline) is really expensive.
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Interesting.....Not happy with this problem, ethanol!! I have a 1991 BW Outrage 25 with twin 1989 Johnson 150's The motors run great and I periodically change the filters(fuel water sep. and inline fuel filters undercowling, (2 filters per motor).....If I'm reading this correctly, I should change the filters frequently(3 times a year?), run the boat to near empty before refilling, and keep a close eye on the engine under the cowling for leaks etc. By coincidence, I did change the fuel lines this past winter...I guess time will tell...Do you think I have it covered?

I average 100-130hrs per year and make frequent trips offshore...Looks like my fuel mileage will suffer abit too...
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sounds about right, except not run the tank near empty and refill it. Apperently, you should drain tank, dry tank, etc to remove all old gas/water that might be in said tank.
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It has approx 120 gallons in it....
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Can't you burn down the 120 gallons that currently exist to a more manageable level?
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We've all got some changin' to do...some will be painful...it's comin' whether we or Mercury like it or not...seems the outboard mfgrs who adapt to it quickest will be the ones to follow...
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I think the manufacturers adapted a long time ago. It is not there issue if the motor is being delivered bad (gummy) fuel. It appears to me from reading several post on the subject that once the initial switch takes place (cleaning tank) and the filters are replaced (however many time it takes) that the motors run fine on the e10.
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and one other thing I might add, my Suburban made the switch with flying colors.

I think the issue with boats is the possibility of water in the mix.
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