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Hello all!! Would anyone say that this was good, bad or just plain silly. I have a 2002 21'WA with a 2002 Johnson 150 that is in PERFECT condition. It has about 125 hours on it. I was thinking of replacing the motor with a new Evinrude 150ETEC. What are the pro's, cons, I understand the $$$ portion, but didnt know if I could reuse the controls, if rigging was a BIG deal, etc......
Your thoughts are always welcome!!
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The E-TEC will bolt right up and use the same cables, control, and gauges.
Your fuel consumption will probably be cut in half, and at $2.80 per gallon, that is a great savings. Oil use will be much less also. The E-TEC is so much quieter than your carbureted Johnson, you will think that it is not running.
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I just replaced my good 1999 200 Johnson Oceanrunner with a 225 E-TEC. I did buy the new I-COMMAND guages but I didnt have to. With yours all you have to buy is the motor and it will hook right up. Even the prop will fit.
I just replaced my good 1999 200 Johnson Oceanrunner with a 225 E-TEC. I did buy the new I-COMMAND guages but I didnt have to. With yours all you have to buy is the motor and it will hook right up. Even the prop will fit.
Scott,
I too have an Ocean Pro 150(1999 model year) and struggling with keeping it or dumping for the E-tech 200 Ho. How big is your boat and what are your numbers ? Since I will probably move up from my 21' CC in 2 years from now I think I am better off keeping old reliable that runs like a champ, although I sure would like to have that e-tech now ! Do they offer the blue color for salt-water also ?
I just replaced my good 1999 200 Johnson Oceanrunner with a 225 E-TEC. I did buy the new I-COMMAND guages but I didnt have to. With yours all you have to buy is the motor and it will hook right up. Even the prop will fit.
Scott,
I too have an Ocean Pro 150(1999 model year) and struggling with keeping it or dumping for the E-tech 200 Ho. How big is your boat and what are your numbers ? Since I will probably move up from my 21' CC in 2 years from now I think I am better off keeping old reliable that runs like a champ, although I sure would like to have that e-tech now ! Do they offer the blue color for salt-water also ?
Joe
Joe,
I have a Wellcraft 210 Fisherman. (Boat length is 21'10") with the 225 E-TEC and the t top I and estamating the weight of the boat is around 3500 #s. I just got the boat back the other day so I havent played with it much. The original prop I had was a 14.5 dia. X 18 pitch, That prop tached out quick, not sure what the speed was but it was slipping. Yesterday I put on a 14.25 dia. X 23 pitch prop and I was doing 47 mph at 5500 rpm. I couldnt get no more rpms so that prop was a bit to much pitch. I am going to try a 21 pitch prop and Im hoping that will be what I need. With the 21 I think I will do a little bit better then 50 mph at WOT. I think that is pretty good. If anybody thinks I should be getting more please let me know! At 4500 rpms my fuel usage was 14 gph, Again I think this is good bt im not sure! I am not trying to talk you in to buying a new motor but that E-TEC is SWEET!!!! Hope this helped you and any more questions I will be glad to try to answer them.
This may sound pretty funny but here it goes. It appears as more and more water folks are reengineering their hobby due to high fuel costs. Yours truly also have done a similar change some several years ago but I started with my car and every day stuff and not my once or twice a month hobby. Anyway I parked my PF SUV and stared driving a v4 car basically from 15 mpg to 28/30. Now after 6+ years my SUV barely has 35000 miles, pristine shape and garaged kept; except the only usage is to tow the boat. There is something seriously wrong. I debated getting a 4stk 115 Yam vs. 150 Carb, based on the Yam performance bulletin for similar weight/shape hull and eng there was 1 or 2 GPH difference plus I wanted the extra speed so I opted for the 150 instead. Now most of the comments I read is for 4stk, E-Tech and Merc EFI for the gas savings. What ever happened to pleasure, happiness and usage? Lets say in 4/5 years the gas prices go over $3.50 and the next wave engines become twice as good as the new 4stk then we will see the same, folks dumping their perfectly running old engines and opting for the new ones. I guess the politicians and economists are correct; we are doing so well that not only we can afford these luxuries but also and switch to new expensive technology for gas savings. I wonder why I do not see many Toy Piryus or other hybrid on the roads but instead plenty of F150’s and other SUV’s ?
If I had a perfectly good running engine, I would hesitate to trade it in on a relatively new product. I would wait a while to let the mfr get the bugs out... And I think there may be a few...
Also... Changing engine from Johnson may require updating the tach (for the special indicator lights -- oil etc.). Not sure, but worth checking out...
Need vs. want. I went throught a similar analysis and determined I would have to use a lot of fuel for a long long long long period of time to rationalize the purchase. I opted to keep reliability and a bit of noise for the time being.
Is this a project that I can tackle with some qualified friends? How about trade-in for my johnson 150?
The dealer is supposed to install E-TEC's, I believe this is part of their contract with BRP.
If it is a new out of the box engine then the dealer needs to do the initial start up with the computer hooked up to program the type of oil and prime the oil system. However, I believe you can install and rig the engine yourself and just bring the boat back to the dealer for the start up. This could save you about a grand in rigging charges.
I had the dealer hang them but I rigged my twin 250 E-Tecs myself, it was very easy as all the wire connections are fool proof plugs. The controls are the same. My engines were demos so I did not need to have the dealer start them. I just followed simple instructions on priming the oil system and that's it. It was music to my ears when they started on the first turn of the key. Though I was amazed on how quiet they were out of the water (on the hose) None of those loud popping sounds. Only a very quiet, steady and smooth purr.
I am really excited about doing this only if I can get a decent trade on the Johnson....you think anyone would take a trade on a 2002 perfectly maintained Johnson 150? As far as going up in HP, I am not really interested. I just really want "shhhhhhhquiet and prrrrrrring noises" when out on the water....I also love knowing that the ETEC is now designed to start on the first revolution......
__________________ "24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not."
Take a trade? Yes, they will take it in trade, but they will flip it to a wholesaler who will pay you about 30-40% on the dollar for it. A girl has to eat you know.
You can try to sell it yourself, but plan on it taking a while. An easier way to sell it is to find a boat with a blown motor for sale, buy it at a fraction of it's value, and sell it with your old engine.
As fo fuel savings, forget it. I ran the numbers, and while I don't have the spreadsheet on this computer, for my twin engine setup, if I ran 1000 miles a year it would take something like 14 years to payy off the cost in fuel savings alone. My old engines got 1.2 nmpg, the new ones will like get at least 2.1.
Of course, if the prices go up over $4 this year, those numbers may improve, and nobody says the engines have to be free. Lower maint costs, better reliability, a nice new WoW factor at the dock.... that's worth something too.
Oh, and the 150 e-tec will run you around $10,500 (motor only). The 175 will be about a grand more.
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Terry Jason 35, Yanmar 370 hp, Lots of fun at a leisurely pace
First of all we are talking about our boats and motors. It is all a luxury. I dont think many of us make our living with them so we shouldnt try to justify anything. If you want the new motor and you can afford it, get it! There was nothing wrong with my 200 Johnson Oceanrunner but I wanted a new E-TEC and now I have one. I told the wife, I will buy a new motor and you buy a new bathroom. The bathroom is costing me more then the motor! OK now the cost of the E-TEC, (By the way let me know how I did on price, I hope I did ok) I bought a 2006 225HP E-TEC with the new NMEA 2000 I-Command guages, all wire harness and everything needed to intall them, remote oil tank filled with XD-50, completly installed for $14,500.00
(I didnt have to pay sales tax because I bought it out of state,about $1,000 and I didnt take the aftermarket extended warrenty so I got a $1,000 cash ****** Im sure I will hear how much fuel I will have to save to get my money back but Im not trying to get my money back. I wanted a new motor!!! And how SWEET it is!
Yea! Yea! you tell em! ;-)
I know all the financials. I am just trying to find the best deal and the easiest deal. Do I buy the motor myself and install and try to sell the Johnson? Do I find a dealer that will do the how thing? Can I finance the new motor for 10 years like a new boat? I understand the Return on Investment, yadayada......I just know how nice it would be for the type of boating that I do.....
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