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Old 03-24-2006, 07:14 AM
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My boat is 7 years old and I am getting oxidation on areas where the boat is constantly exposed to the sun, I have a blue hull. I compound the boat and then use Colonite cleaner then wax followed up by a coat of Teflon polish. Any better way to get the boat through the summer without having to reapply wax every two months? I am wasting time and money if I apply two coats of carnauba wax then Teflon polish?
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Which Teflon polish? Some remove any products already on the surface, so it would be pointless to wax prior to using the Teflon polish. As far as 2 coats of wax, I've heard that it's great and I've heard that it's a waste of time.
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Powerboat Reports says "yes", and from what I remember, they weren't too thrilled with that teflon finish.
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If you are using a wax and a polish, use the polish first. The polish has very mild abrasive in it to polish the hull and cleaners to remove old oxidation AND wax. The wax is then applied to protect the hull. I would only apply one coat of wax, since the second coat will remove a lot of the first coat.

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I think once a colored hull starts to fade it's a never ending battle to keep it looking good. I went thru it for years with go fast boats I've owned. I've decided if I should still have my bay boat when it starts fading, I'm just going to have the sides of the hull painted as close to the original color as I can. With the effort put into waxing it twice you could do all the prep work which is a lot of the $. Something you may want to consider..
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Old 03-24-2006, 12:36 PM
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If you are using a wax and a polish, use the polish first. The polish has very mild abrasive in it to polish the hull and cleaners to remove old oxidation AND wax.
I think he's talking about a Teflon polish...different from polish in the usaul sense.
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IMO wax builds, so the more coats you put the longer it has to last.
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Wouldnt putting on a second coat just remove the one that was already on the hull?
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I emailed Collinite. They said that 2 coats of wax gives extra protection..
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And.....they sell twice as much wax!

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And.....they sell twice as much wax!
I still had water beading on the hull at the end of the season after Collinite cleaner and one coat of Collinite 925. I'd suggest that anyone in FLA use one coat but redo it every six months. The sun is a lot stronger there than up here in the Northeast. I was also told by Sabre (a reputable builder for sure) that I would only get 6 years out of the dark blue gelcoat if I left it exposed year round, and then it would start chalking. Saving my pennies for Awlgrip!
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I've only ever used one coat of collinite fleetwax and it lasts an entire year.
Two coats I think is overkill and you'll be re-waxing in the spring anyway.
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Wax never lasts very long in the harsh sun and salt. I wax at least every two months. As long as you are using wax and not cleaner wax I think the extra coats are a good idea.
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I compound the boat and then use Colonite cleaner then wax followed up by a coat of Teflon polish.
I think that after all that work you are ending up with one coat of teflon polish. You'd be better off just applying another coat of wax.
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I wax the hull once a month especially the bottom let's me inspect everything for new dings and such I would so it once a week if I had the time More wax will always help if done right the more sealing of the porous gelcoat the better it will last no matter what color sunlight can f#$% up any finish if given the chance so why let it you spent xxx amount might as well take the time to care for it
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I use the Collinite Saphire cleaner, then 2 coats of the Collinite insulator wax. Boat is in water from May thru December. Hull is light in color, but never had a problem. Blood still washes off hull sides in December.
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My boat is 7 years old and I am getting oxidation on areas where the boat is constantly exposed to the sun, I have a blue hull. I compound the boat and then use Collonite cleaner then wax followed up by a coat of Teflon polish. Any better way to get the boat through the summer without having to reapply wax every two months? I am wasting time and money if I apply two coats of carnauba wax then Teflon polish?

Yes. One or two coats of Collinite PASTE Fleetwax is plenty, and it's the longest lasting. It's hard to apply though. On less exposed areas use Collinite Insulator Wax or Fiberglass Boat Wax (same stuff, different label). It's the gel form of the paste Fleetwax. It's far easier to apply, and lasts very well, though not as long as the paste. Liquid Fleetwax is not the same, and it will not last as long as any of these.

At some point in its life, the gelcoat will dry out to a point where it will be impossible to keep it from oxidizing quickly; particularly colored gelcoat. When you get to that point, the best thing to do is to sand it and paint it with a polyurethane topsides paint such as Interlux Perfection.
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And.....they sell twice as much wax!
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Old 03-25-2006, 07:05 AM
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After two coats of Collinite past wax does it make any sense to put on a coat of Teflon polish, West Marine brand with UV inhibitors, or will it degrade or take off the Collinite past wax?
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After two coats of Collinite past wax does it make any sense to put on a coat of Teflon polish, West Marine brand with UV inhibitors, or will it degrade or take off the Collinite past wax?
right, good question. I've been told that the most important thing to protect colored gelcoat (dark especially) is to use something with a UV blocker... most waxes don't have one. I'm going to try 303 protectant this year. I will have to apply it more often, but it is simpler to appy than paste. Plus, I trailer the boat.
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