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Old 03-08-2006, 05:36 AM
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Anyone out there have any views (dumb question) on the best stern ladders with or without platform with more than just a single retracting step and made to really last? Tempted by the strength of the Armstrong but seems to have a tendency to float away! Fitting it to a 245 Edgewater.
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This my current favorite. Takes up much less storage room than the Armstrong style.

http://www.iboats.com/products/7/480...ng_ladder.html
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http://www.garelick.com/marine/produ...bls&subcat=sdl
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I was always told to get the armstrong type with a single pole with steps out the sides so you can keep your fins on when climbing onboard. But I find keeping your fins on a PIA and never do it that way. My boat has a three step ladder that folds up and lays on the bracket and it works great. When I comeup with all my scuba junk on< I remove my fins and throw them onboard and climb up the ladder with everything else on. I think once you are out of the water it is a huge bonus to not have the fins on and you are much less liekly to be falling around without them on. On big dive boats it is not the same thing and leaving the fins on is quicker and more efficient andno big deal, but in a 25 center console, I don't thinkt he ladder type is a big deal. The most important thing is: The ladder is hinged so you can forget about it and not rip it off there when you forget about it. You will forget about it sooner or later! Mine is hinged and I don't even waste my time pulling it up between spots.
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I've got this one http://www.galleymaid.com/gpage4.html
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To grin:

Is your ladder the Armstrong?

I like the looks of that ladder but have a few questions.

What is it made of, aluminum? stainless? Are the cross steps welded or bolted?

How does the ladder store? Upside down in the bracket? Is it secure that way?

Were you able to mount the bracket directly to the hull or did it require a wedge or adapter? Does your boat have the normal 14 degree transom angle?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-08-2006, 12:48 PM
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I recommend the Armstrong ladder. Easy to store and deploy. One thing I wish I had is the "swing away" bracket for the ladder. This enables the ladder to swing up and away if you were to take off with the bracket deployed.

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I had a friend weld one up out of square aluminum tubing. It is about 4 feet long, with 3 steps. Top section is reinforced with solid aluminum stock pounded into the tube to the first step. The cross-pieces (steps) are welded to each side of the center tube. Works fine for me with gear (I prefer removing my fins once I'm on the bottom step), or for bigger folks (I dive with a couple of 300 lbers on occasion) without gear. Best thing was that it was cheap (read: free.) Nice to have friends.

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I've got the "Deluxe Dive Master Ultimate Ladder" from The Boat Ladder Company, http://www.boatladder.com/, I've had it on my GW 248 Voyager for 4 years and its great, I really like the starboard platform with hand hold cutouts, it gives you a secure place to hang on to while climbing the ladder.

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I've had the original style Armstrong ladders on two boats. There's a newer style with a pivoting mount that I have no experience with.

What is it made of, aluminum? stainless? Are the cross steps welded or bolted?
Construction is stainless tubing center post, steps are stainless channel welded to the center post. The treads on the steps are plastic, and there is foam (for flotation?) in the channel sections under the treads. The treads will crack if the ladder is seriously mistreated.

How does the ladder store? Upside down in the bracket? Is it secure that way?
I've never tried storing mine in the bracket. The plastic "latch" that keeps the ladder in the bracket can't be engaged, but you could probably figure out a simple way to secure it.

Were you able to mount the bracket directly to the hull or did it require a wedge or adapter? Does your boat have the normal 14 degree transom angle?
Not sure of transom angles. There is a deeper bracket available, but I've only had the shallower version. I shimmed the bracket on a '93 Robalo 2440 so the ladder would clear the rub rail. On a 31' Contender no shim is necessary.

I'm very happy with mine, but admit that there would be advantages to the swing-up style. I've had both ladders and brackets bend when the tide got low, etc.

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The Deluxe Dive Master Ultimate Ladder is made of aluminum, it's all sealed and it floats. The rungs are have nonskid grooves cut in them and the all the metal is powered coated. I have a starboard storage bracket that is mounted on the boat in front of the engine on the hull. The ladder comes with an adjustable bracket to conform to almost any hull my transom angle is 15 degrees. I normally keep the ladder stored in the storage bracket but I could pivot it up to the full up position and secure it to a cleat. If nobody is on the ladder it floats on the surface and when you're on it is resting at about a 30 degrees up from being full down.
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