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Old 03-08-2006, 05:36 AM   #1
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Anyone out there have any views (dumb question) on the best stern ladders with or without platform with more than just a single retracting step and made to really last? Tempted by the strength of the Armstrong but seems to have a tendency to float away! Fitting it to a 245 Edgewater.
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:37 AM   #2
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This my current favorite. Takes up much less storage room than the Armstrong style.

http://www.iboats.com/products/7/480...ng_ladder.html
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http://www.garelick.com/marine/produ...bls&subcat=sdl
http://www.armstrongnautical.com/ladders.htm
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I was always told to get the armstrong type with a single pole with steps out the sides so you can keep your fins on when climbing onboard. But I find keeping your fins on a PIA and never do it that way. My boat has a three step ladder that folds up and lays on the bracket and it works great. When I comeup with all my scuba junk on< I remove my fins and throw them onboard and climb up the ladder with everything else on. I think once you are out of the water it is a huge bonus to not have the fins on and you are much less liekly to be falling around without them on. On big dive boats it is not the same thing and leaving the fins on is quicker and more efficient andno big deal, but in a 25 center console, I don't thinkt he ladder type is a big deal. The most important thing is: The ladder is hinged so you can forget about it and not rip it off there when you forget about it. You will forget about it sooner or later! Mine is hinged and I don't even waste my time pulling it up between spots.
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I've got this one http://www.galleymaid.com/gpage4.html
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Old 03-08-2006, 10:09 AM   #6
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To grin:

Is your ladder the Armstrong?

I like the looks of that ladder but have a few questions.

What is it made of, aluminum? stainless? Are the cross steps welded or bolted?

How does the ladder store? Upside down in the bracket? Is it secure that way?

Were you able to mount the bracket directly to the hull or did it require a wedge or adapter? Does your boat have the normal 14 degree transom angle?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-08-2006, 12:48 PM   #7
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I recommend the Armstrong ladder. Easy to store and deploy. One thing I wish I had is the "swing away" bracket for the ladder. This enables the ladder to swing up and away if you were to take off with the bracket deployed.

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Old 03-08-2006, 12:53 PM   #8
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I had a friend weld one up out of square aluminum tubing. It is about 4 feet long, with 3 steps. Top section is reinforced with solid aluminum stock pounded into the tube to the first step. The cross-pieces (steps) are welded to each side of the center tube. Works fine for me with gear (I prefer removing my fins once I'm on the bottom step), or for bigger folks (I dive with a couple of 300 lbers on occasion) without gear. Best thing was that it was cheap (read: free.) Nice to have friends.

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Old 01-23-2007, 01:45 PM   #9
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I've got the "Deluxe Dive Master Ultimate Ladder" from The Boat Ladder Company, http://www.boatladder.com/, I've had it on my GW 248 Voyager for 4 years and its great, I really like the starboard platform with hand hold cutouts, it gives you a secure place to hang on to while climbing the ladder.

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Old 01-23-2007, 06:11 PM   #10
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I've had the original style Armstrong ladders on two boats. There's a newer style with a pivoting mount that I have no experience with.

What is it made of, aluminum? stainless? Are the cross steps welded or bolted?
Construction is stainless tubing center post, steps are stainless channel welded to the center post. The treads on the steps are plastic, and there is foam (for flotation?) in the channel sections under the treads. The treads will crack if the ladder is seriously mistreated.

How does the ladder store? Upside down in the bracket? Is it secure that way?
I've never tried storing mine in the bracket. The plastic "latch" that keeps the ladder in the bracket can't be engaged, but you could probably figure out a simple way to secure it.

Were you able to mount the bracket directly to the hull or did it require a wedge or adapter? Does your boat have the normal 14 degree transom angle?
Not sure of transom angles. There is a deeper bracket available, but I've only had the shallower version. I shimmed the bracket on a '93 Robalo 2440 so the ladder would clear the rub rail. On a 31' Contender no shim is necessary.

I'm very happy with mine, but admit that there would be advantages to the swing-up style. I've had both ladders and brackets bend when the tide got low, etc.

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Old 01-23-2007, 07:26 PM   #11
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The Deluxe Dive Master Ultimate Ladder is made of aluminum, it's all sealed and it floats. The rungs are have nonskid grooves cut in them and the all the metal is powered coated. I have a starboard storage bracket that is mounted on the boat in front of the engine on the hull. The ladder comes with an adjustable bracket to conform to almost any hull my transom angle is 15 degrees. I normally keep the ladder stored in the storage bracket but I could pivot it up to the full up position and secure it to a cleat. If nobody is on the ladder it floats on the surface and when you're on it is resting at about a 30 degrees up from being full down.
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The Deluxe Dive Master Ultimate Ladder is made of aluminum, it's all sealed and it floats. .
Resurrecting this old thread as I'm looking for a strong dive ladder to attach to a soon-to-be-built engine bracket/swim platform. I tried to call the company but the phone number doesn't work. I emailed through the contact form and it didn't bounce back but they haven't responded to my questions. The fax number works and the website still seems live.

I'm just looking for some closeups of how the ladder attaches to the bracket and the bracket to the boat, if you have one of these. I'm also wondering if they are still in business.
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We manufacture these on a custom basis . They blow away anything you can buy for toughness and ease of use . They are , however , custom and more expensive and require the boat in most cases to fabricate .
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We typically just have our dive ladders custom made at a local welding shop. It's really not all that expensive if you use aluminum tubing. Because we dive with steel tanks (doubles + stage bottles), the ladders see a lot of weight and handle it fine.

The way the pivot is constructed, the ladder will self-rotate up without breaking when you forget to pull it up to the stowed position.

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We typically just have our dive ladders custom made at a local welding shop. It's really not all that expensive if you use aluminum tubing. Because we dive with steel tanks (doubles + stage bottles), the ladders see a lot of weight and handle it fine.

The way the pivot is constructed, the ladder will self-rotate up without breaking when you forget to pull it up to the stowed position.
That is exactly what I'm looking for (we dive steel tanks too). Is it removable too? Could you post a close-up of the hinge mechanism so I can take it to a local welder?
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We dive steel doubles w/stages and dry suits. Lots of weight involved. This is over engineered and real nice to climb.

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For non custom, I really like the ultimate dive ladder that has been mentioned previously. The only negative is that the powder coating started to peel off on mine, but I guess that is to be expected.

Towermaster, what's the ballpark on those custom ladders? May have to look into something a little more custom on the new boat.
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This my current favorite. Takes up much less storage room than the Armstrong style.

http://www.iboats.com/products/7/480...ng_ladder.html
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For non custom, I really like the ultimate dive ladder that has been mentioned previously. The only negative is that the powder coating started to peel off on mine, but I guess that is to be expected.

Towermaster, what's the ballpark on those custom ladders? May have to look into something a little more custom on the new boat.
Do you know if they're still in business? Could you send me a few pictures of the bracket and how it mounts to your boat? The website only has one picture.
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Not sure if they are in business. I'd recommend giving them a call or emailing them. The dive ladder is not their primary business. They are a small machine shop, and it is something they do on the side. I actually picked my ladder up from their shop in Riviera beach. Nice guy.

As you can see by the pictures, the part of the bracket that mounts to the transom can be adjusted to match any transom angle.
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