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Old 02-01-2006, 09:20 AM
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What is the latest on this company???
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As far as I know they are still making flats skiffs and small offshore boats in Titusville, FL. I went to their facility a couple of years ago. Their workmanship is very nice, but you do pay for it.
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Bankrupt the last I heard. Took a lot of customers money according to reports I have read on other boards.
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As far as I know they are still making flats skiffs and small offshore boats in Titusville, FL. I went to their facility a couple of years ago. Their workmanship is very nice, but you do pay for it.
Your two year old information is two years old. They have not make boats on Titusville for approximately 2 years.
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reason I asked was I heard that they were bankrupt.When i fished out of one several years ago I thought that they would never make it.The boat was not worth what they were asking.Apparently the origional owners saw this and sold out.
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I've seen the 21 Cape Sable and the build quality was fantastic. It was really pricey, but they probably had to charge to put that build quality in.

That said, I talked to a guy that went thru hell and back trying to get his boat delivered before they went under. real shame. I like to see the smaller companies make it.
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I found this article on the FS forum that sheds some light on the recent issues at HB.

in the Key West newspaper.
http://www.keysnews.com/285285064551773.bsp.htm
Broderick's Hell's Bay problems are escalating
Bryan Broderick, the owner of the bankrupt flats boat company Hell's Bay Boatworks, pleaded guilty in 2002 to providing false information to an Alabama corporate licensing board, and in exchange he agreed to cooperate in a corruption probe that eventually targeted the state's governor and one of the country's highest-paid CEOs, according to news reports and sources familiar with Broderick's history.

Hell's Bay Boatworks of Titusville was founded in 1998 by a team of shallow-water fishing pioneers that included Flip Pallot of the television show "Walker's Cay Chronicles." The company planned to build boats to order for customers instead of selling them through marinas.

In August 2002, with his Alabama chapter closed, Broderick purchased Hell's Bay from former Key West businessman and flats angler Hal Chittum. The company's boats were increasingly sought by the best Keys guides, and at the time most observers considered Hell's Bay a challenger to Maverick Boat Company of Fort Pierce, as the industry leader.

Over the next few years, however, the company's fortunes gradually faded for reasons that are still in debate. What is known for certain is that Hell's Bay filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in October after the company's primary financier, Riverside National Bank, received a $2.6 million judgment against Hell's Bay for unpaid loans.

Sources familiar with the bankruptcy proceedings said talks are under way over the potential sale of the company to an owner who would keep the name and product line, while paying back creditors under a deal structured by the bankruptcy court.

Broderick did not return repeated calls seeking comment. Critics allege he accepted thousands of dollars in downpayments for new boats even though his company was financially unable to build those boats. By their tally, 28 customers paid $400,000 in downpayments on boats that were never built.

As recently as August, Broderick told this column that his company's financial woes were manageable and that he was not considering seeking bankruptcy protection. "People keep asking me about these chapters. I don't even know what the chapters are," he said, referring to the U.S. bankruptcy code. In fact, at the time of that interview, Circuit Court Judge Warren Burk had issued a $2.6 million judgment against Hell's Bay and Broderick for unpaid loans, a decision that led to the bankruptcy filing.

Before coming to Florida, Broderick received a six-month suspended sentence in exchange for cooperating in a state corruption probe, according to the Mobile Register daily newspaper. "He's a flea on a dog that got hit by a truck," Broderick's attorney, Ron Wise, told the newspaper.

Wise declined to comment on Broderick Wednesday, but other sources said Broderick — known as J. Bryan Broderick in bankruptcy court papers — is the James Bryan Broderick who reached the plea agreement in Alabama.

The Alabama probe culminated in indictments last October of former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman and former HealthSouth CEO Richard Scrushy.

The Siegelman-Scrushy indictments show no obvious link to the matter that produced Broderick's plea. Siegelman allegedly conspired to pack the state's health board for Scrushy in exchange for payments. The two are scheduled to go on trial in May. A jury acquitted Scrushy of unrelated fraud charges last year.

Siegelman and Scrushy maintain their innocence. "The evidence will show that there were no requests for favors or promises for favors by Richard Scrushy from Governor Siegelman," says Scrushy's defense team on his Web site, http://www.richardscrushy.com.

In 2001, Broderick's company, GH Construction, came under state scrutiny after the Mobile Register questioned the state's decision to "hire a two-person firm with no employees or history to manage construction of a state warehouse project slated to cost more than $16 million," according to the newspaper.

The state of Alabama dropped GH Construction from the warehouse projects. In his plea, Broderick admitted to providing false information to a state corporate licensing board.

Meanwhile, in Florida numerous angry customers are pursuing Broderick in the courts. Among them is Gordon Baggett, a part-time Keys tarpon guide from Daytona Beach. Baggett said he turned over his Hell's Bay Marquesa boat to Broderick last year as a downpayment on a new boat that was to be built over the coming months. Broderick allegedly sold Baggett's boat but never built the new one.

Baggett leads a committee of creditors that is providing information to the bankruptcy court. Despite his experience with Broderick, Baggett said he believes in the Hell's Bay product as envisioned by Pallot and others. Baggett said he hopes a buyer will emerge to restore the company. "It was a good company and it still can be a good company," he said.

Lawyers involved in the Hell's Bay case said discussions are under way with potential buyers and that a court-supervised resolution could come within days or weeks.

David McFarlin, the attorney for Hell's Bay Boatworks, said he could not predict an outcome. "Beyond that unhelpful response, [this] is what's on the table right now, and that is a proposal to sell the business as an ongoing concern," he said.

Ben Iannotta is a free-lance journalist and flats fishing guide. He can be reached at biannotta@aol.com.





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Before any other rumors get started I'll make this point clear; Maverick Boat Company has not purchased molds or any other part of the above mentioned company.

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I found this article on the FS forum that sheds some light on the recent issues at HB.
Wow. That answers a lot of questions. Thanks for posting the article.
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Before any other rumors get started I'll make this point clear; Maverick Boat Company has not purchased molds or any other part of the above mentioned company.

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I just traded my Cape Sable 21 in on a new 23 Regulator a few weeks ago. Although the boats were a little over priced new if you could find one used they are an excellent boat. Everything on the boats is top notch and well put together. I stopped by the shop in Titusville on 12-27-05 and there were still a few guys there working on boats. There are always people looking for the perfect cross over boat to use inshore and little offshore on the right day. The 21 will do just that if you can find one. I'm sure I will love the Regulator but there are some things that I will really miss about the Hells Bay.
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Doesn't surprise me in Florida...

I moved to Titusville from Wisconsin nearly three years ago and have never seen or heard of so many low-life cheats . It seems that there is a crook or a criminal around every corner in Florida; at least it seems so from watching the news. Don't get me wrong--there are many good people here. But in my line of work I talk to ALOT of people and hears lots of things, most of which are corroborated by multiple sources. There are a lot of crooks in Florida, period.

Sad state of affairs, this deal about Hell's Bay. In the time I have lived here I have never (knowingly) seen one of their boats.

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Doesn't surprise me in Florida...

I moved to Titusville from Wisconsin nearly three years ago and have never seen or heard of so many low-life cheats . It seems that there is a crook or a criminal around every corner in Florida; at least it seems so from watching the news. Don't get me wrong--there are many good people here. But in my line of work I talk to ALOT of people and hears lots of things, most of which are corroborated by multiple sources. There are a lot of crooks in Florida, period.
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Well the low lifes and cheats weren't born in Florida. They learned their craft in other states, like say Wisconsin.

Truly if you or anyone else for that matter doesn't like it here you are welcome to go where ever you please. There will be no hard feelings on my part.
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Yo Adrian,

Good answer. Many did come from other states--Florida just makes it easy for them to stay here. If you are proud of that, I guess there's no problem.

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