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Old 10-03-2005, 12:38 PM
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I'm getting a new trailer for my dory, I've been told that the correct height of the ball on my bumper should keep the side rails on my trailer as close to level as possible.
I called Karavan trailers to find out what that height should be on one of their models and I was told anywhere within 4" either way is acceptable. Is this true or should I sttemept to get it as close to level as possible/

It's a 16" boat.


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As close to level is best on all trailers.
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As close to level is best on all trailers.
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Mine was set for 23" to the top of the ball and you can find differant drops and types of slugs to make it perfectly flat.
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Level is very important, especially on a tandem axle trailer. I'm guessing with a 16' boat you have a single axle. Your setup will likely be a bit more forgiving if it's not perfectly level.

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I'm getting a new trailer for my dory, I've been told that the correct height of the ball on my bumper should keep the side rails on my trailer as close to level as possible.
I called Karavan trailers to find out what that height should be on one of their models and I was told anywhere within 4" either way is acceptable. Is this true or should I sttemept to get it as close to level as possible/

It's a 16" boat.

Thanks, Rob

This is a good question and one that I was not able to get answered before I went to pick up a new boat this Summer. I decided on an average of 18" would be about right (22' boat tandem trailer about 5000 lbs gross). I ended up with a 6" drop on a Dodge RAM 1500 4X4 which gave me a 17" ride height. The boat towed OK, but it had a bounciness to it that I didn't like. (I didn't feel it was at all dangerous, mind, but it was a bit uncomfortable and scared the hell out of my wife -- though she is easily scared -- the name of the boat is Don't Worry Mom!.) On my next trip, I changed to a 4" drop (I couldn't find a 5 which would have given me the 18" I was looking for) which gave me a 19" height. Most of the bounciness dissappeared and my wife calmed down a lot.

Having said all that, I also have a single axle trailer and it is much more forgiving. It works well over about a 4" range as you were told. A little up or down doesn't mean as much with a single axle trailer, though level is best particularly if the trailer does not have brakes.

I hope this helps!

Oh, in case there is any doubt in your mind, the heights that I gave you were all to the top of the ball which, I believe, is the standard way of measuring these things.

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Ted,
Usually that bounciness you are getting is due to too much tongue weight. Raising the tongue decreases it slightly but you might want to check it out.
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get you one of these and your trailer height adjustment pains will be gone for good. Not cheap, but they are worth it. My brother just put one on his F250, 10k capacity on the hitch, and has all 3 ball sizes and about 10" of fertical height adjustment. Once I get a spare 200 bucks I'm gonna have to pick one up. If they hand a way of including a pintle hook on it as well, it would be perhaps the best thing ever.



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When measuring your truck, factor in about a 1-2 inch drop with the weight and gear..

Level is best also!
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get you one of these and your trailer height adjustment pains will be gone for good. Not cheap, but they are worth it. My brother just put one on his F250, 10k capacity on the hitch, and has all 3 ball sizes and about 10" of fertical height adjustment. Once I get a spare 200 bucks I'm gonna have to pick one up. If they hand a way of including a pintle hook on it as well, it would be perhaps the best thing ever.



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I picked up a similiar one from Northerntools for about $130. It also has a 10K capacity ratings and is pretty heavy. It is all solid steel and weighs in at about 45lbs.

It has been a great investment especially since I have three trailers that all have different size hitches. Sure takes the guess work out of what size drop down to get.
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I found out about the magnum through one of my buddies, who works on a ton of boats, and does a lot of pickups and deliveries, had it for about 2 years and still looks new. Around the shop, he has a tractor with 3 different balls mounted on the 3 point hitch so you can move them around the lot without ever getting off the tractor, but on the road the magnum & similar hitches seem to be the hot ticket.
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.... though level is best particularly if the trailer does not have brakes....
I believe you meant to say if the trailer does have brakes. A level trailer will allow the brake actuator to slide with minimum binding.
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Thanks all, I think one of the adjustable types is the ticket although that Magnum may be a bit of overkill for a Toyota 4Runner toweing a 16' boat (g). I've seen the same deal in a Class 3 version.


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It's a 16" boat.

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A 16" boat. Just put it in the trunk.

A 16' boat. A few inches don't really matter.

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Recoil Rob - 10/4/2005 9:08 AM Thanks all, I think one ofthe adjustable types is the ticket although that Magnum may be a bit ofover kill for a Toyota 4 Runner toweing a 16' boat (g). I've seen the samedeal in a Class3 version. Thanks, Rob
In my opinion it is very over kill.

Ibought the heaviest slug for my receiver for less than $75.00 and best 25/8 ball with it for my Class 5 hitch and I pull 8,000 lbs regularly withit for 10 years now. Ironically enough the new trailer again tonguesheight is 23&quot; and exactly what my last trailer height was. Thank You. . . . Steve at East Coast Trailers Nice guy to do biz with too.
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16 foot boat, you can pretty much do whatever works on your truck.

Level looks nice, but for the weight, you need not worry. You have a lot of room for error.

Once you get into the "heavy" boats, 5000 pounds and over, then that height issue become more important.

My Polar with the trailer comes in at 8,200 pounds, I had to make many changes to my trailer to get it just right.

When I first picked it up, I had very little tongue weight. The trailer bounced the bback of my truck up and down like a yo-yo. The rear set of rollers were all the way to the rear of the trailer, I moved that set of roller forward about 20" so that I could move the boat forward on the trailer. It worked perfect. Then I had to make small adjustments to get it just right. I made these adjustments with the bow stopper. Moving it back and fourth to get the boat just right.

One other thing, mostly with a tandom, when I had the light tongue weight, the trailer would fishtail BAD. I couldn't tow over 60mph or whe would start swinging. Once I moved the boat up on the trailer, she settles right in and now I have been up to as much as 75 with no problems. (I know,,don't speed) That 75 was just a quick test. Don't yell at me.

I guess my point, with a 16 foot boat, you shouldn't have to worry about much because of the minimal weight.
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