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Old 01-12-2004, 07:19 PM
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Default Catalina, San Clemente, Coronado's and beyond...........

Boy do I yearn for the days of yore when I used to fish the charter fleet of San Pedro, Fisherman's landing and Santa Barbara. Now I'm here in Ohio in freshwater fishing paradise but it does pale in comparison to fishing for tuna and yellowtail. Anyway here's my post to me hardees in the pacific. How much does it cost to dock your boat for the season and where do you dock it? Many of you may not believe but I dock here in Ohio with electric and water for 700 a season. I have a 21 Walkaround. I have a feeling if I ever trailer my boat back it will be a launch and retrieve affair. And can a 21 be safely taken across the 26mi. to Catalina? San Clemente? THanks Paul
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Old 01-12-2004, 07:26 PM
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Default Catalina, San Clemente, Coronado's and beyond...........

Slips out here start aroung $10/foot. Some other guys can tell you better about that since mine is on a trailer. 21' is fine for the Catalina run as long as you watch the weather. It's smart to go early and return early because it can get nasty in the afternoons. Clemente is another story. I make a few trips there every year but stay nervous cause it's 55 miles from Long Beach.

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Old 01-12-2004, 07:57 PM
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Default Catalina, San Clemente, Coronado's and beyond...........

Paul:

Here are a few slip rates from Dana Point and San Diego.

DP, 23' slip, $219/mo
DP, 28' slip, $284/mo

Nice marina, gated parking, renter only bathrooms, showers, etc..

Cabrillo Isle Marina in SD;

28 foot slip, $394/mo
I don't have info about slips smaller than 278 there.

Nice marina, gated parking, renter only bathrooms, showers, etc.. Generally closer to better fishing.

Guest slips I have taken in this area generally run about $20 per night. I found guest slips and a trailer boat to be a good combination. You can take multiday trips up and down the coast without launching and retrieving every day.

I don't know anything about marinas north of Dana Point.

Can you take a 21 foot boat to Catalina? Yes, from Dana Point its only about 30 miles to the east end of the island - near Avalon. You should be careful about weather though.

Can you take a 21 foot boat to San Clemente Island? I would not. Too far. Like Joe said above, 50 some miles from Dana Point or Long Beach. Other guys do take boats that small over - but I don't recommend it.

The Coronados are a short run from San Diego - like 20 miles.

Hope this helps.

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Old 01-12-2004, 08:41 PM
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Default Catalina, San Clemente, Coronado's and beyond...........

Paul,

In Newport I pay just over $20 per foot per month on a 35' slip. Smaller slips are a little less per foot and larger slips are more per foot (go figure).

Catalina is a relatively easy trip as long as the winds aren't blowing (unless you're a blow boat). I've made dozen's of trips to Avalon in a 21' Winner many years ago and that is what hooked me on boating.

If the winds get over 15knots you really don't want to be out there. I've been out there in 8' to 10' swells with no wind and it was reasonable. However, I've been out there in 2 to 4's with the wind blowing and it was uncomfortable and occaisionaly wet. If the wind's out of the North East (Santa Ana conditions) and over 15knots you do not want to be at Catalina.

Not much at San Clemente Island, it's actually an old Navy missle range and is restricted. Coronado or Santa Cruz Islands are better destinations.

Guest slips in Dana Point are $13 a night but are on a first come first serve basis; and you can not stay there for more than 10 consecutive nights.

Getting a mooring in Catalina during the summer can be problematic since it's on a first come first serve basis also. You'll probably want some kind of a dink also since the shore boat is $4.00 per person each way, the wait can be frustrating, and they won't take you to the private coves where you may want to camp on the beach.

Pick your spots and enjoy. We refer to Catalina as our local touch of Hawaii without the humidity.

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Old 01-12-2004, 09:48 PM
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Default Catalina, San Clemente, Coronado's and beyond...........

Sea Swirl, Funny your post has found it's way not long after a beginner made his post just yesterday about possibly making such a trip in a 17.5' Bayliner. He posted in Electronics.

How to plot trip from land to another point?

http://thehulltruth.com/6/ubb.x?a=tp...1&m=4676072045

I have made that trip from San Diego several times and it can get nasty at times.. Adding to MarkT if you plan it right you can see some awesome maneuvers taking place on San Clemente..Had some fun times in Avalon and diving just off the coast is beautiful!

Great Place!

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Old 01-13-2004, 10:15 AM
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Default Catalina, San Clemente, Coronado's and beyond...........

Go for it!!!!!! I live in San Diego, I have been to San Clemente in a Valco 18' with a Evenrude 45! It's no big deal if conditions are right. In the summer, you can fish the backside of Clemente in a Kayak it's so flat most days. It seems to me that the Southern Californian boatmens ideas of rough (no offense) are a little different than East Coast folks. I have been on sport boats here (party boats) 65' X 15' with people calling a 2' sea and a 2' afternoon wind chop rough! Hell, that describes every east coast cut on any day at any time! Make no mistake, It CAN get snotty out there, but as a rule, if you are prudent, you can fish anywhere you have range to get IMO. See ya out there, I'll be the guy dragging the Jigs!
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Well yeah,doughnut, that's why we call her the Pacific. I'm trying to think back...2' seas and 2' wind chop... that must of been during the devil winds of 1998. I apologize for prolonging this west coast thread but couldn't resist

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