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Old 07-24-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Proline 32 express ride quality

I'm looking for info on someone who's ridden in a newer style proline 32 express (with the 22 deg deadrise, not the older style 19 deg hull).

How's it do in rough seas? How fast can you run without pounding or beating everyone up? How's it compare to a 28ish foot cat hull in ride quality?

Yes, I know it's a proline.
Yes, I know that Proline's aren't generally considered to be built as well as a Grady.
Yes, I know it costs 1/2 as much as a Grady.

However, the boat is very well laid out, seems to be have better fish-abililty and certainly more cabin space than most any other I've seen.

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I wish someone would/could answer this also..looked at the 32 express..nice layout..good size cabin..decent price by todays standards
Also Read test w/225 hondas..little light on power..cruise was 32mph @ 5100rpm...I don't call that a cruise rpm..one I looked at had 250 verados..anybody know cruise specs with these motors...web site only has WOT numbers??
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Well I rode the 32 Express today.

It was on Lake Lanier and the lake was calm.

Twin Suzuki 225's the boat cruised 38 Knots at 5200 rpm, 4 People and 1/4 tank fuel, I think it's a 300 gallon tank.

No wakes to jump or anything, it felt solid, Deep V, I think that’s why it doesn’t cruise as fast as some of the others.

I am looking for something like this boat.

I am NOT an expert and have NOT reviewed the construction of the boat, (no Kevlar reinforcement), or reviewed the Suzuki engines, IE. I am just starting to look, and once again I am NOT an expert.

I really liked the lay out though, tons of storage space.

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Are you sure that "cruise" was 38 KNOTS...that is 43.7 mph...that's more than the WOT with the 225 hondas in the boat mag test I read!!!

as memory serves the website says wot is around 44-45mph with 250 verados..........

The layout is one of the best I've seen for this type boat...I need a little fluff for the admiral..this boat has enough and not too much...good cockpit space also
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Well I rode the 32 Express today.

It was on Lake Lanier and the lake was calm.

Twin Suzuki 225's the boat cruised 38 Knots at 5200 rpm, 4 People and 1/4 tank fuel, I think it's a 300 gallon tank.

No wakes to jump or anything, it felt solid, Deep V, I think that’s why it doesn’t cruise as fast as some of the
I am looking for something like this boat.

I am NOT an expert and have NOT reviewed the construction of the boat, (no Kevlar reinforcement), or reviewed the Suzuki engines, IE. I am just starting to look, and once again I am NOT an expert.

I really liked the lay out though, tons of storage space.

Ed
I don't believe 5200 rpm is a very good cruise closer to a wide open throttle I own a 330 express grady with 0x66 250 yamahas this boat will cruise 30mph loaded at 4400 rpm with a wide open 5500rpm close to 40 mph sucking almost 60gph so we don't do that very often
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Not sure if this helps, but I fish on the older 30 express frequently. nice layout for family, but extremely wet boat in any seas
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Sounds like that boat needs 275's or 300's to perform like it should.

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I just looked at this very boat today at a boat show. I really like its helm ergonomics, very comfortable sitting or standing and well laid out.

BUT....... the thing that really troubles me most is how weak the hullsides above the chine felt. With just moderate pressure you could easily deflect the hullsides inward. I could only imagine how much that part of the hull will be panting going into a significant head sea. I would be very concerned about stress cracking in the future with this type of construction.


It seems to me by producing a thin hull this is where and how Pro-line saves money and cuts corners. They know most customers won't ask about the lamination layup or even care, they'll just focus on "how much boat you get for the price." It is a nicely designed boat, I'm just very concerned about how it'll hold up over time.

And of course when I asked the salesperson about the lamination schedule he didn't know and acted like I was asking for the nuclear launch codes.
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I toured the plant last year in crystal river very neat and clean operation. I think it is a decent boat but, I'm always concerned with re-sale value though and they just don't hold their value very well
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Yes, I know it's a proline.
Yes, I know that Proline's aren't generally considered to be built as well as a Grady.
Yes, I know it costs 1/2 as much as a Grady.

And yes, it won't rot like a Grady either
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Verados like to cruise at about 4200 rpm and do that well, at about 10 gph, but at 5200 rpm you'll need to own a refinery...
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I'm looking for info on someone who's ridden in a newer style proline 32 express (with the 22 deg deadrise, not the older style 19 deg hull).

The ride is about the same as the 30ft top speed is not though it is 5-6 mph slower & burns more fuel.

How's it do in rough seas? How fast can you run without pounding or beating everyone up? How's it compare to a 28ish foot cat hull in ride quality?

Great as long as you go slow 20-24 mph or slower depends on seas motor trim & tabs to run dry & smooth these boats are not made to run on top in rough water. The cat will run better in a head sea the proline does everthing else better.

Yes, I know it's a proline.
Yes, I know that Proline's aren't generally considered to be built as well as a Grady.
Yes, I know it costs 1/2 as much as a Grady.

True but a three piece boat is the best.

However, the boat is very well laid out, seems to be have better fish-abililty and certainly more cabin space than most any other I've seen.

If its what you like best who cares what others think you are the one that needs to like it most.
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I was also concerned about the hull, it did seem a little thinner than what I had seen on boats like the triton 2960 or similar.

They do not use kevlar reinforcement like some MFGrs do.

I am not sure if Kevlar adds anything or not though.


And yes I do think 5200 is closer to WOT. I thing the Suzuki's had about a 6000 read line, which is fairly standard isn't it.
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do what we do in the car business - when I want to find out how a car holds up, I go find a car on the used car lot that is 3 or so years old. You may not be able to find the same boat, but it will tell you a lot about how Pro-Line's hold up over the years....

I looked at a 32WA that came in our neighborhood last year with about 600 hours on it. Everything was loose and the hardware looked pretty beaten....
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And yes, it won't rot like a Grady either
I have seen survey/lawsuit reports of many Grady's doing just that, rotting. And they were under 5 years old. Glass over wood is just fine, when done properly. I wouldn't buy a Grady that was made on a Friday.
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I was also concerned about the hull, it did seem a little thinner than what I had seen on boats like the triton 2960 or similar.

They do not use kevlar reinforcement like some MFGrs do.

I am not sure if Kevlar adds anything or not though.


And yes I do think 5200 is closer to WOT. I thing the Suzuki's had about a 6000 read line, which is fairly standard isn't it.

You didn't answer about cruise ...you said 38knots...thats 43.7 mph..that's a high cruise..and more than WOT with 225 hondas in test I read....was this speed knots or mph????? to me anything over 4200/4300 rpm is NOT cruise rpm
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I'm looking for info on someone who's ridden in a newer style proline 32 express (with the 22 deg deadrise, not the older style 19 deg hull).

How's it do in rough seas? How fast can you run without pounding or beating everyone up? How's it compare to a 28ish foot cat hull in ride quality?

Yes, I know it's a proline.
Yes, I know that Proline's aren't generally considered to be built as well as a Grady.
Yes, I know it costs 1/2 as much as a Grady.

However, the boat is very well laid out, seems to be have better fish-abililty and certainly more cabin space than most any other I've seen.

Thanks
I have a 2006 32 Express with dual Verado 250s and I have logged well over 500 hours on this boat. The 22degree dead rise works well for the boat in rough seas. I have been out 70 miles in 5ft seas and if the seas are tailing I was easily able to do 25mph plus. If trimmed right the hull will simply cut through the seas and the ride is far better than most boats. This said, you give up some lateral control with the deep V hull. With auto pilot, I do not have a problem with this compromise. My boat planes out at 13mph and cruises nicely at 32mph without kicking on the supercharger. Gas consumption is not the best as I get about 1.2 mpg in 2ft seas. For the dollars, I would not trade my boat. I bought it brand new in 2006 and had normal maintenance issues with pumps and such. I have taken this boat all over the Bahamas without concern.
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Default Lots of comments and the like here.

Please allow me to cover some.

Hull Strength:
Five layers of 3610 triaxial cloth, overlapping keel and chines in bottom.
Three laters of 3610 in sides plus two more core layers in side.
Structure exceeds Loyds Of London spec X 3
"L Over" (Load over) acceptable is 50. We're at 78-80.
"L over" laymans terms, what pressure will an unsupportd panel take befor it fractures. Just an FYI.
Last ten years, PRO-LINE hulls replaced due to a hull failure, NONE.
Last ten year, fuel tank replacement, ONE.
I'm only using ten years as an example, jst a number to work with.
Ten year, tranferrable, structure warranty, That is a non declining warranty backed by a company uninterupted operation, no trauma, no bankrupcys, no scandals, since 1968.

On our web, go to the construction pages. I did them and the photo's. Tried to do it in a fashion that was not too tech in nature, but am delighted to answer any question, but there's a prtty good amout of information there. The "Unibody" insert, in lieu of stringers, you might find interesting. We're not the only manufacturer using what I call "unibody", a few others do also. An extremely expensive system, very strong and creates a very stiff bottom.

Ok as to the specs and some performance figures.
LOA 32'4"
Beam 10'10"
Hull draft, motors up, 23"
Deadrise at transom 22 degree
Fuel 300 gals
Weight, hull only, 9500 aprox
Weight, full fuel, max hp and 200 lbs misc, 9500 approx
Cockpit area 81SF
Max HP 600
Livewell 35 gals
Freshwater 39 gals

WOT, all approx, but very close:
Twin 250 VERADO'S 47-50
Twin 225 HONDA'S 39-43
Twin 250 SUZUKI'S 45-48
Twin 25 E-Tecs 45-48
Obviously, with the exception of perhaps the HONDA'S, cruising at mid 20's to mid 30's is not much of a challange. Size and weight, mid to high 20's is probobly the most popular cruise speed, but there's plenty more MPH with most of the selections we offet to do lots more should you wish.

No wood in the stucture anywhere just the cabinitry in the cabin.

Any question anyone has re a PRO-LINE, any model, any year, any question, any issue, I'm delighted to do my best.

I really appreciate the opportunity.

BTW, I'm not an engineer. Anything I've noted that an engineer wishes to call to question, I'm Ok with that. I try to talk in terms that are simple to put and understand, pictures also, like on the construction pages. I did those pages, and trust me, I'm not a real smart guy, so, questions and the like, that's absolutly fine. Dont hesitate.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN A PRO-LINE!
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Please allow me to cover some.

Hull Strength:
Five layers of 3610 triaxial cloth, overlapping keel and chines in bottom.
Three laters of 3610 in sides plus two more core layers in side.
Structure exceeds Loyds Of London spec X 3
"L Over" (Load over) acceptable is 50. We're at 78-80.
"L over" laymans terms, what pressure will an unsupportd panel take befor it fractures. Just an FYI.
Last ten years, PRO-LINE hulls replaced due to a hull failure, NONE.
Last ten year, fuel tank replacement, ONE.
I'm only using ten years as an example, jst a number to work with.
Ten year, tranferrable, structure warranty, That is a non declining warranty backed by a company uninterupted operation, no trauma, no bankrupcys, no scandals, since 1968.

On our web, go to the construction pages. I did them and the photo's. Tried to do it in a fashion that was not too tech in nature, but am delighted to answer any question, but there's a prtty good amout of information there. The "Unibody" insert, in lieu of stringers, you might find interesting. We're not the only manufacturer using what I call "unibody", a few others do also. An extremely expensive system, very strong and creates a very stiff bottom.

Ok as to the specs and some performance figures.
LOA 32'4"
Beam 10'10"
Hull draft, motors up, 23"
Deadrise at transom 22 degree
Fuel 300 gals
Weight, hull only, 9500 aprox
Weight, full fuel, max hp and 200 lbs misc, 9500 approx
Cockpit area 81SF
Max HP 600
Livewell 35 gals
Freshwater 39 gals

WOT, all approx, but very close:
Twin 250 VERADO'S 47-50
Twin 225 HONDA'S 39-43
Twin 250 SUZUKI'S 45-48
Twin 25 E-Tecs 45-48
Obviously, with the exception of perhaps the HONDA'S, cruising at mid 20's to mid 30's is not much of a challange. Size and weight, mid to high 20's is probobly the most popular cruise speed, but there's plenty more MPH with most of the selections we offet to do lots more should you wish.

No wood in the stucture anywhere just the cabinitry in the cabin.

Any question anyone has re a PRO-LINE, any model, any year, any question, any issue, I'm delighted to do my best.

I really appreciate the opportunity.

BTW, I'm not an engineer. Anything I've noted that an engineer wishes to call to question, I'm Ok with that. I try to talk in terms that are simple to put and understand, pictures also, like on the construction pages. I did those pages, and trust me, I'm not a real smart guy, so, questions and the like, that's absolutly fine. Dont hesitate.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN A PRO-LINE!
This info was what I was looking for the boat I am looking at is with honda 225 S
and I was concerned it would be under powered
now I know it would be better to have 250 s
but thats how it goes

my question is will it get on plane without using all my gas up
did not want to buy a slug

Could anyone confirm the ride is good or bad in seas under 5 Ft

the rest of the boat looks good

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