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Old 12-29-2013, 10:23 AM
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My boat was also a 27 Baha, with a 350 MerCrusier. You will figure her out pretty quickly. And I also second the "goose it" method!
This Baha has a single 454CI, 340HP and I was worried it could be a little underpowered. How did your boat perform w/ a single 350CI?

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And I also second the "goose it" method!
Note in the video when the skipper "gooses it" the boat has stopped motion. This is a key component when maneuvering around docks and such.

Full stop no way on, helm hard over, a "goose" or two and you can almost turn in your own length.

Think about the wind and current and how they can work with / for you too, you'll catch on in short order.

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Lots of great tips from these guys & video about shows it all. I always said you had to be a man with balls to handle a single screw. Many years ago I had a Trojan 30' woody, it was a challendge but fun after you got the hang of it. Confidence & experience!
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I have a 230hp inboard, practice is key - as was said - you have know your boat. My keys were, "neutral is your friend", "slow is pro" (except for watermen on Delmarva) and bump the throttle to make your move if needed. Good luck
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Two things to remember: Prop walk, and rudder before throttle. The rest is just using your head before your hands and you should be fine.
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I have a 230hp inboard, practice is key - as was said - you have know your boat. My keys were, "neutral is your friend", "slow is pro" (except for watermen on Delmarva) and bump the throttle to make your move if needed. Good luck
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Not sure if the Bahia has a keel, but my Shamrock has a pretty substantial one and it only back straight. The goose method as described by several works, but you could never do the manouver shown in the video with it. I expect those boats have rounded bottoms and little if any keel. Pretty impressive skills for sure.
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As a rule:

Single screw boats are more responsive to change of direction when move forward rather than aft.
Rudder has little to no effect while backing (unless you are sporting a barn door).
Don't aim your boat at anything you can't afford to buy....
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This Baha has a single 454CI, 340HP and I was worried it could be a little underpowered. How did your boat perform w/ a single 350CI?

Russ
It was a good economical boat with 4 customers on board and cruised just under 20 knots but I wished I had the 454. It was most noticeable in rough water that the boat could have really used more power, especially a following sea. If I could have only fished on nice days I would have been completely happy with the 350.
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I'm no pro... and I've certainly had a few "WTF" days at the dock. But here's the very best advice:

Remember, a boat steers from the stern. As soon as you visualize it, you'll master it.

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This should do it

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Old 12-29-2013, 04:31 PM
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My buddies shamrock inboard with a full keel will not respond while reversing. I played with it for a bit trying to get it to prove him wrong.
It prop walks but the wheel has zero effect.
Pretty much plan your arrival using prop walk, wind, and current if backing into a slip. Minor adjustments can be made using forward.
It's nothing like a single I/o, twin i/o, or twin inboard.

Think about it the rudder is behind the prop so when going fwd the rudder diverts the thrust in the direction it's turned. In reverse turn the wheel wherever you'd like..... The prop thrust won't be re directed by the rudder because it's going the opposite direction.

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My first boat was a 20 ft Shamrock with a keel and a small prop. I came into a side tie at a 45 degree angle, hit the rudder hard over, gear in reverse and the boat would stop next to the dock every time. My current boat is a 26 Blackman with a 18 inch prop. The prop has much more bite, but the same technigue works. I have a RH wheel, so it goes to port in reverse. My slip is a right hand turn which allows the reverse to help out getting in. Remember that a single pivots at the stern in close quarters. Pay attention to wind and tide, these some times cancel each other out and some times makes each worse. Do not get down wind with the wrong turn ahead of you. My boat makes great right hand turns in close quarters, impossible making a left turn. Be aware of windage of your boat. Isinglass acts like a sail. Let wind and current be your friend, do not work against them. Some people use spring lines to pivot with. You have been on the water a lot. Practice in open water with little traffic and light winds. Ask the seller to tell you what he knows about the boat. Good luck, you will like it.
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Russ, before you know it, this will be you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knIYCip68IM

Very impressive in a competition, but in everyday life I would be pretty alarmed if someone was doing that in a marina or harbour where my boat was moored!
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This should do it

http://youtu.be/3N-KTbdmuCk
Well hell I can do that!

Assuming this engine is a clockwise/right rotation I will get prop walk to the left/port? Which means I would want the dock on the port side of the boat?
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Well hell I can do that!

Assuming this engine is a clockwise/right rotation I will get prop walk to the left/port? Which means I would want the dock on the port side of the boat?
thats how my Baha was. Port side 45 degree angle to the end of the pier and reverse would put me perfect into the slip. More or less angle depending on wind/current. Had a wheel on the end of the dock for when the wind pushed into the dock but she would pivot perfectly off it.
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Not sure if the Bahia has a keel, but my Shamrock has a pretty substantial one and it only back straight. The goose method as described by several works, but you could never do the manouver shown in the video with it. I expect those boats have rounded bottoms and little if any keel. Pretty impressive skills for sure.
If the boats in the video are typical of the type, they have full keels like the Shamrock. I also understand the transmissions are somewhat 'disposable' (heard second hand from a friend while we were visiting the Crab Derby)

I've got the same general hull shape with full keel, it will turn in reverse (either way to some extent), but doesn't get the same 'pull' to port that my old sailboat with a more centered keel and less lateral resistance in the ends got. Every boat's a little different.
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Default I owned a 24 and a 25 Black fin single Inboard. I would say practice a lot.

The only singles that back half way straight are full keel boats and a bow thruster equipped boat. All the rest want to turn in reverse. I believe I use to practice on slack water with poly no wake buoys for targets, or like learning to park a car with plastic cones instead of real cars to bang up. Then move on to current and wind situations in different directions. Next try the real thing when no one is watching. Most I believe turn to starboard in reverse. Its because they grab better water on the deeper blades then the blades near the surface I believe? I think the blunt transom is aerating the water in reverse. All those bubbles are a loss for grab. I remember when I backed in I always lined up on a diagonal angle and reverse would pull it around.
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The only singles that back half way straight are full keel boats and a bow thruster equipped boat. All the rest want to turn in reverse. I believe I use to practice on slack water with poly no wake buoys for targets, or like learning to park a car with plastic cones instead of real cars to bang up. Then move on to current and wind situations in different directions. Next try the real thing when no one is watching. Most I believe turn to starboard in reverse. Its because they grab better water on the deeper blades then the blades near the surface I believe? I think the blunt transom is aerating the water in reverse. All those bubbles are a loss for grab. I remember when I backed in I always lined up on a diagonal angle and reverse would pull it around.
I plan on practicing too. The last thing I want to do is bang into other boats and/or look like a greenhorn. What I'm most worried about is if I have the bow against the dock but the stern its to far away to reach (I boat by myself often) to get a line on the dock. With an outboard or I/O I can just slip it into reverse and suck the stern up to the dock, what do I do with an inboard? If I slip into reverse the stern will push up against the boat next to me because of the prop walk. I can't go forward or else I will put the boat onto the rocks. How do I get the stern sucked up to the dock? Even if I put he boat in reverse to try again my boat would push up against the boat next to me and potentially scrape all the way down the side of the boat. I'm wondering if there is an action I can take to get away from the boat next to me. I know I could push off with the boat hook but there should be a way to use the boat power to get out of this jam.

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