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Old 07-11-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Yamalube vs. West Marine oil

Mechanic told my to dump out my oil tank filled with West Marine oil and replace it with Yamalube. He said my O2 sensor would go bad and mess up my powerhead if I kept using the West Marine stuff. (This is on a Yamaha 200 os66 engine.)

Anyone have any experience or opinions on this issue?
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Not only that, but you'll grow hair on your eyelids.
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Hi Grady,

I've heard just too many stories from too many mechanics regarding problems resulting from boater owners using poor quality oil. I'm not sure what the reason is for the claims in particular regarding different oils -- you'd think "TCW-III is TCW-III", but it appear's not to be. In the new Evinrude E-TECs, you need to specify what oil you're using and set the engine for that specific oil. Not all engines are that choosey, but engine repair is just too darn expensive.

To be on the safe side, I ran OMC or Penzoil brand oil in my Evinrude and now use Yamaha oil in my 4-stroke. To save a few $$ and risk problems down the road was more risk than I wanted.

I'd go with the mechanic's recommendation, but your decision may be different.

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Yamaha-Yamalube
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JohnRude-JohnRude oil
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Save money on something else!!
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I use Penzoil full synthetic in my 225 Yamaha OX66. FWIW, Yamalube is a semi-synthetic oil.

IMHO - Adding Ringfree to the fuel at every fillup (1 oz/10gals of fuel) is more important than the brand of oil you are using, so long as the oil is TCW3 rated.
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I believe that you can find a dealer that sells Yamalube in bulk out of a drum and easily beat West Marine's price. Go Yamalube and RingFree.
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I have a 1989 Yamaha 200 HP V6 that I have run in salt water and on the Great Lakes . I have used TCW 2 & 3 oil from Walmart TEC series and Lubrimatic and have never had any problems with the engine . I have never used any fuel additives such as Yamalube ring free . The carbs were cleaned out this spring for the first time since 1990 when I bought the boat & engine ( there was a build up of varnish/gum and the low speed jets were blocked .)
I do not believe there is any diference in the oils as long as they conform to the reccomended specification.
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Working in the oil industry the only thing that Yamaha's has is its own additive package. TCW-3 is a spec'ed oil and has to meet a standard set by the American Petroleum Institute. Additive packages are what differentiate the brands, pure and simple.- Cooker

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The 2 best " less expensive " brands from my experience are...
Penzoil semi synthetic @ 12 bucks a gallon
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Castrol Super Outboard & 10 bucks a gallon. The Castrol is harder for me to get as " Pep Boys " chain doesnt stock enough of it & often there out..
The mechanic may have a point with fuel injected engines needing a good detergent oil.
The only difference in the cheaper TCW 3 oils is less detergents which mean more carbon & carbon cleaning..
So in a way you get what you pay for..
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you have an o2 sensor if it isn't right you don't run right buy yamalube or penzoil full synthetic use ring free every time and you will think you bought the best engine yamaha ever made because you did
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Someone please show me ONE engine that failed because the owner used TCW3 oil that didn't have the engine manufacturer's logo on the bottle.

I've got plenty of time on an OX66 using a myriad of oils. Runs like a champ!
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Nothing but Wally World oil in my 175 EFI Mariner since new in 1998. No problems whatsoever except a speed sensor went bad and that is not oil related. In my case, a lesser price has not translated into a poorer quality oil.

Let's see now. Wally World oil at 5 bucks a gallon. Yamaha at about 12 bucks or more a gallon. Those are surely some expensive additives if they cost 7 bucks a gallon. The additives are more costly than the oil itself. How much additives can they be adding anyway? Do the additives have lubricating properties that are equal to or the same as the oil they are replacing?

Wish they would change the required specifications to include whatever additives the manufacturers feel are needed. Until they do, trying to figure this what-oil-to-use business is like a dog chasing his tale. We can't get there from here.

Use whatever oil will let you sleep at night I say.
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Amsoil is the best thing since panty liners.

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Any full synthetic tcw-3 will run clean and provide excellent lubrication for your powerhead. Adding any of the "ring-free" type additives to the fuel will keep your rings happy. Availibility and your budget will dictate which you choose. Using Pennzoil full synthetic in my carbed 150 Yamaha made all the difference in the world, no more oil smell, no more spitting at low rpm.
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I accidentally put Quicksilver in my Yamaha oil reservoir and ran it. The engine cowl turned from pewter to black and an Optimax sticker showed up. And TraderVic was right....hair did grow on my eyelids. What should I do???
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I accidentally put Quicksilver in my Yamaha oil reservoir and ran it. The engine cowl turned from pewter to black and an Optimax sticker showed up. And TraderVic was right....hair did grow on my eyelids. What should I do???
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I accidentally put Quicksilver in my Yamaha oil reservoir and ran it. The engine cowl turned from pewter to black and an Optimax sticker showed up. And TraderVic was right....hair did grow on my eyelids. What should I do???
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Oh well......Yamaha is a thing of the past for you....Once you try black, you'll never go back ! Just as long as a Verado sticker doesnt show up.....Now that would be weird.
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mine runs just fine on crisco, three years and never a problem
stop wasting your money on yamalube
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I used to use the West Marine stuff whe i had a 2 stroke. Never had a problem with it, and it seemed to smoke less than the yamalube.
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My MERC even loves "BIO-Diesel".....problem is viscocity in the colder temps!!!

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