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Old 12-01-2013, 06:12 PM
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Default Johnson Zuki 140 Motor Trim issues WTF?

New Fishing Trip...New Problem with Johnson ZuKi 140 LOL

Motor Is 2003.

I have owned quite a few motors and this problem is new for me. The trim comes on by itself without hitting the button and lifts the motor up. After it reaches the top, I can still hear the trim motor running. I can hit the switch and it may(sometimes) stop for a moment, but then it starts up again.

I was 20 miles out today when my motor wanted to stay out of the water lol....Awesome feeling.

Anyway I disconnected the tilt/trim swith on the side of the motor cowling and it worked fine with the throttle trim switch for the rest of the day. (No random going up)

When I got home I reconnected the cowling switch and the same problem started happening again.

So am I to believe this issue is as simple as a bad cowling switch? And ideas on how troubleshoot this?

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Sounds like the side switch is shorted out
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Sounds like the side switch is shorted out
I wonder as well....just seems almost too obvious to me lol
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Sounds like the side switch is shorted out
....... or has corrosion on it.

Spray the side switch with some "CorrosionX" and hook it back up again.
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....... or has corrosion on it.

Spray the side switch with some "CorrosionX" and hook it back up again.
In the electrical connector I assume?
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very common, one of the switches is faulty, disconnect them one at a time, find which one, replace it, problem solved. Spraying anything in it will be a temporary fix at best, replace it.
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In the electrical connector I assume?
Yes.
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Yes.

Ok so I removed the entire trim switch friom the cowling. I checked out the plug very well and found basically zero corrosion. I played with the switch and it seems kinda sticky. Since the helm switch works perfectly when the cowl switch is unplugged I went ahead a bought a brand new switch on ebay from a OEM parts dealer and on thursday will hope it solves my problem!

I will keep everyone updated.
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Ok so I removed the entire trim switch friom the cowling. I checked out the plug very well and found basically zero corrosion. I played with the switch and it seems kinda sticky. Since the helm switch works perfectly when the cowl switch is unplugged I went ahead a bought a brand new switch on ebay from a OEM parts dealer and on thursday will hope it solves my problem!

I will keep everyone updated.
Got the new switch today and the function is noticably better then the one I took off the motor. I plugged it in and it seemed to work perfectly.....No more going up on its own. I feel this is fixed and that's a great feeling! Thanks as always everyone who helped with this!
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Good try but a switch normally does not "short out". It can fail open or it can fail closed.

A short is a direct path to ground which generally will trip a circuit breaker or blow a fuse.

Or, is it the conventional wisdom that by closing a switch the system is being "shorted out" to make it operate?
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Good try but a switch normally does not "short out".

Trim operates uncommanded with switch connected, trim functions normally with switch disconnected. Switch is broke, remove and replace, problem solved, no further postmortem required ...
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Good try but a switch normally does not "short out".

Trim operates uncommanded with switch connected, trim functions normally with switch disconnected. Switch is broke, remove and replace, problem solved, no further postmortem required ...
They also can be taken apart very easily and cleaned.
I've done bunches of them. Unless the contacts inside are completely burned up.
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