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Old 10-06-2013, 07:16 AM
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Default Help with Armstrong Swing Ladder on Proline Bracket

I spoke extensively with an Armstrong rep and ordered a swing ladder and mounting hardware to mount the ladder to my engine bracket. The "L" piece is called a "PLM" bracket and is specifically designed for engine brackets. I both described my bracket and sent him pictures. He said it would fit my bracket. The piece attached to the "PLM" bracket with the "T" slot is the part that actually holds the ladder and allows the ladder to swing up and avoid damage if you forget to pick it up when you get underway. It is designed to put the ladder at a "stair" angle for boarding.

When I laid it on my bracket in the place I want the ladder to be, it appears the "PLM" will hang down below the water line and drag in the water. Am I crazy? Won't this create all sorts of problems with steering? I just bought the boat and have not had it in the Gulf yet. Just ran it in the bay and bayou for sea trials. Trying to get it ready to go diving. Any advice would be appreciated.

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From this point of view, it looks like you can move up the ladder bracket by drilling 2 more holes higher and then cut the PLM bracket shorter?

I dont think it will be an issue anyway because when you are on a plane, that will be well out of the water.
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Thanks for your help captbone. Not sure I want to cut the PLM. I don't have any way to cut it myself, so I would have to take it to a machine shop. I'm thinking at this point that I'll send it back and get a custom detachable ladder made for it. The ladder and mount were over $500 so that can go toward a custom ladder. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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I would be more inclined to mount this type of ladder. You can mount is so it flips up out of the way and gives you an angle when deployed. Many better choices than the plm style.
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I have owned a Armstrong ladder (also had an Armstrong bracket on a Cat. It was the "T" ladder, which I believe you were looking at. It is a great ladder, and quality product. I don't believe that you will notice any issues from that hanging down--if that is the ladder you want. There might be a little "wake" at idle speed--as you speed up, it will not be an issue, as it is out of the water.

I am just up the way--near the head of Perdido Bay.
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Perdido, thataway, good to see a couple locals here. I wanted the Armstrong ladder because it looks easy to remove and when removed leaves a pretty clear area for fishing but when in place is a good dive ladder but I'm concerned this bracket will drag in my wake and act like a trim tab. Do y'all post on the Pensacola Fishing Forum?
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Florabama,
I have the Armstrong on my boat and it's a good, durable unit. It was standard on the boat, but I would like to replace it with a collapsible, folding model. In shallow water around the islands its not uncommon for it to bounce on the bottom when boats go by and it's been bent several times. I'm on PFF under the same name.
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Here is another mount that might work with your bracket.


Garelick Sport Dive Ladder Platform Ladder Top Mount Bracket - See more at: http://www.wholesalemarine.com/boati....43zNYlTZ.dpuf



Windline breakaway bracket only has three mounting holes.

https://windline.com/index.php?route...product_id=116







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Default Funny you should ask

I just installed a Garelick 99187
99188
19804 4 step ladder W/400 capacity.
Installed on the bracket, 04 25 Pro-Line Sport today.

Pro-Line used a Windline DLB-6
Ladder was Dl3XB But was a 3 step, 300 capacity vs the 400 Garelick (EZ-in)

Either one is fine.
I used the 4 step 400 pound capacity because it was better for this particular customers requi8rement/ purpose.
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I just installed a Garelick 99187
99188
19804 4 step ladder W/400 capacity.
Installed on the bracket, 04 25 Pro-Line Sport today.

Pro-Line used a Windline DLB-6
Ladder was Dl3XB But was a 3 step, 300 capacity vs the 400 Garelick (EZ-in)

Either one is fine.
I used the 4 step 400 pound capacity because it was better for this particular customers requi8rement/ purpose.
Thanks Perdido, halfmoon and Mike for your help. I think I'm going to send back the Armstrong and see if Blue Coral or one of the other local shops can make me a custom, removable ladder, but I sincerely appreciate your help and advice.
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