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Old 06-04-2005, 09:44 AM
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Default Help findind decarb procedure - Seafoam

Can anyone point me to the procedure for decarbonizing using Seafoam? Has anyone used it to decarb a Ficht?
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Bruce, I de-carb my 2000..........200 hp Evinrude FICHT every 50 hours like clock work, makes one hell of a big difference in the way she runs.
Remove the air cover to the 6 air intakes at the front of the engine, [ they look like carburators ].
Sea Foam only comes in a non-pressurized can,.......so you must pore it into a hand sprayer [ for strong chemicals only,...kinda expensive, like $8.00 just for the sprayer, it will melt the cheap sprayer guts ].
Sea Foam also comes in a presurized can but it's called "Deep Creep" [ same solution ] but it's only 12 oz instead of 16.
Start the engine & let it idle [ either on the hose or in the water ].
Spray solution into each air intake, [ you will hear the engine bog down more in some intakes than others ].
Do this as fast as you can because you want to get as much Sea Foam inside the engine as possible before she burns it all up.
When you get to the end of the solution & if the engine is still running, shut her off, it's best if she floods out.
I let it set over night because the solution turns the hardened carbon into a liquid & this allows it to be burned & pushed out the exhaust.
I also remove the plugs after she's cooled down & pore another can [ or enough ] into each cylinder, & turning the flywheel by hand [ no compression witout plugs ] .
This ensures the solution gets in back of the rings & saturates every nook & cranny.
Before starting the engine, turn her over "BY HAND" not with the starter to try & get as much solution out of the cylinders.
When you feel you have removed most of the solution from inside the engine by turning it over by hand, put the plugs in & start her up, but be careful because the engine "WILL" want to over rev, so when you hear her start to rev, shut her off.
You may have to do this 2 or 3 times before she settles down to a normal idle.
There is absolutly no need to rev the engine higher than 1,000 rpms in neutral & no need to run her any harder in the water than 4000 rpms because the carbon is now liquid & it will burn off.
Please note that the engine "WILL" smoke like you have never ever dreamed it could,....it's gonna scare you but don't worry because thats the nature of the beast as it burns off the carbon & excess cleaner.
You plugs are going to catch hell because there's gonna be alotta crap coming out of that engine.
If the plugs are fairly new, I remove [ after the Sea Foam treatment & run for at least 1/2 hour ], clean them with carburator cleaner, brush with small wire brush, re-gap at .028 & put em back.
Trust me, you will not believe the crap thats going to come out of that engine & the smoke "WILL" bring the fire dept so do it some place where it wont draw to much attention.
Your engine will run like it is brand new, idle so smooth & quite & just a big improvement.
Do this every 50 hours & your engine will last you much longer than if you just say, hey, mine runs fine, I'll leave it be.
Do "NOT" run any other oil through that engine other than the XD50 Evinrude oil.
Do not run anything other than the XD50 special oil for DFI engines.
Do "NOT" run the regular TCW-3 oil you ran with a carbed 2 stroke because the DFI & FICHT engines lube from inside the crank case, not mixing the oil with the fuel as the carbed engines did,.....if you do run the regular TCW-3 oil, expect your engine to fail long before it's time & than you can blame the engine like most people do saying it's junk, not because you used walmart X brand TCW-3 oil for carbed engines.
The DFI or FICHT engines are a totally different animals from yesteryear 2 strokes, treat em as so & your engine will be running long after most other brands.
I do this method because I feel if you just put the Sea Foam or "Engine Tuner" in the filter & run it through with the fuel, it gets burned off as soon as it's atomized & sprayed into the chamber & exploded, not allowing it to get in back of the rings where most carbon failures occure.
I learned this method from one of the top guns [ techs] at Bombardier.
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Old 06-04-2005, 04:04 PM
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This was posted by Dunk awhile back


This works for Carbed, EFI, Ficht, HPDI, Optimax and even 4 strokes... First you need a separate small fuel tank. One of those 3 gal red Tempos works great or an empty gal mike jug will also work, but might be a bit messier.. I use Seafoam over the OEM stuff like OMC Engine Tuner or Merc Power Tune because in the last few years they changed the formula and you have to let them sit up 12 hours. Who's got time for that?? Seafoam you can buy from NAPA, CarQuest or other auto stores. Seafoam works in 15 mins. You'll need 3/4 gal of gasoline and one 16oz can of seafoam for each engine. Don't forget to add 3oz of oil if you are premixing in a carbed engine. Use about 3 ft piece of fuel hose off the little tank. You connect this tank to your engine by pulling off the main tank fuel hose off the intake side of your water separating fuel filter and plug the hose off the small tank on to that fitting. Or you can separate the fuel line on the tank side primer ball, so you can still use your primer. If you have an engine that has fuel plug then you need a fuel plug on the little tanks hose. Start the engine, let it warm up and start pulling the mix into the engine. You may have to increase the idle to keep it running once she get loaded with the Seafoam. Run the engine 15 mins in the dock or just cruising around under 2500. Then shut it down and let it sit for 15 mins. Restart the engine, the smoke you see is the carbon burning off. Do the whole thing again and let her sit again for 15 mins. If she smokes after the second time do it again, but I've never seen one still smoke after three doses. The gallon mix should be enough to do this 3 times. You don't need any wide open throttle, you don't need to change the plugs. If it's cleaning the combustion chambers it's also cleaning the plugs, but every 50-60hrs is good time to change plugs in most engines. I cleaned a antique evinrude one time that had a 1/4" of solid carbon on the exhaust chamber walls by running a 1/2 gal of the mix through it. Seafoam has been around since the 30's and it's what they used when they were burning straight 4 stroke 40SAE oils in outboards. You guys with the 4 strokes think you are immune from this? Those engines work 10 times as hard as any auto engine ever will and they will carbon up. I bought a Bronco two years ago that had 95,000 miles on it. When I used seafoam on it I had the neighbors hanging out of their front doors looking for where the fire was after I started it the first time there so much smoke. Too many are under the assumption that it's totally the 2 stroke oil that causes the carbon, Wrong... it's also the additives they put in the fuels today. The carbon inhibitors in 2 stroke oil are there for this reason also. Remember when gasoline used to smell like gasoline, today it smells more like bad cologne. For those guys that like to do the carbon treatment by spraying it down the carbs Seafoam also comes in spray can called Deep Creep. It's the same stuff under pressure. Says right on the can Oxygen Sensor Safe, for you Yam guys. After that if your engine maunf recommends a daily additive treatment then do that in the mean time, but all 2 stroke outboard need decarboned every 50-60hrs. If I owned a 4 stroke I would do it the same. Once you are set up with the tank and hose the Seafoam is only 5-6 bucks can. It to easy not to do it.
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Default Re: Help findind decarb procedure - Seafoam

Thanks, Getting info like this is one of the great things about this site!

Sal, How many bottles do you use?
Sal and Knot_Enuff, can this be don with the engine hooked up with a flush kit?
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One can is enough unless you haven't done it for 500 hours.
Sure you can do it on the hose, just don't rev it over 1500 rpms "EVER" while in neutral.
Engine tuner by Bombardier works just as well plus it has the plastic straw to aim the juice into either the carbs or air intakes.
Sea Foam runs about $5.00 & Engine Turner runs about $7.95.
Dunk is a very good buddy of mine. from NJ., we go back a loooong ways.
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Thanks again,
I am trying the method where you mix 1 can with 3/4 gal of gas. The reason is because I am having a problem with varnish on an injector. I'll let you know how it goes.
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