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Old 07-02-2013, 06:37 PM   #1
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Smile Hewes Redfisher 16 with 4 stroke Yamaha

I'm new to the forum. I'm looking at buying a Hewes Redfisher 16 with a 4 stroke Yamaha outboard. Can be a 115, but the 90 is what the majority seem to be equipped with. Anywhere between a 2003-2007 seems like my range. I'm looking for opinions on value.

The prices are all over the map it seems. I missed out on a 2007 with a 90 the other day that sold for $14500. Is that a good price? Sure seemed like it was compared to what dealers are reselling them for.

Can someone help me out on value? All tho vs being equal, how much do the redfishers depreciate year to year? Is 1 year better than others? I'd love to hear from owners and those that know the value of these things.

Really appreciate your help here. It's a large investment. Some expertise would be awesome.
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Prices are all over the place on these Hewes, I have a 1979 yes its 34 years old that just is completing a stringer up rebuild, with a '05 Yamaha 115 2 stroke I have been given unsolicited offers in the high teens/low 20's...
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:51 PM   #3
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2005 Hewes Tailfisher Englewood FL

Not a Redfisher but this one looks sweet

I am no expert but I think a F115 is a heavy motor for a 16
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Old 07-02-2013, 07:09 PM   #4
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Yeah I think u r right about the 115. The 90 is perfect
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Call Skip at the factory and ask about adding a 4-stroke to those older hulls, they were not designed for the weight and you'll likely wind up with a porpoising dog. The hulls were redesigned in later years (not sure what year) for the 4-stroke weight.

The 90hp 2-stroke 3 cylinder Yamaha was the right motor for the hull before the redesign and we all know how light those motors were.
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About 262 lbs, Bought one of the last ones made and bolted it on my 17 Whaler

If you want to go four stroke on that 16 the F 70 would be weight compatible
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Call Skip at the factory and ask about adding a 4-stroke to those older hulls, they were not designed for the weight and you'll likely wind up with a porpoising dog. The hulls were redesigned in later years (not sure what year) for the 4-stroke weight.

The 90hp 2-stroke 3 cylinder Yamaha was the right motor for the hull before the redesign and we all know how light those motors were.
That's good info, thanks!

I've noticed most come with the 2 stroke, at least in the 20,000 and under crown.

Is there an advantage to the 2 stroke? Everyone tells me to go for the 4 stroke, but they don't know much about boats.
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Later model versions of that hull were designed for the 4-strokes. Previous to the redesign you should be looking at a 2-stroke powered hull. That 3 cyl yamaha 90hp 2-stroke is a great motor, don't hesitate to buy a good condition hull rigged with one.

Call Skip at the factory. He's the man and can help you with your questions.
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As above, only get the 90 2 stroke. Those hulls are very weight sensitive. When you find a boat that is right, make an offer that is below asking but respectable with cash in hand. Make the terms of your offer dependent on a seatrial and mechanical inspection by Your mechanic. There are online sites to estimate a value but I do not know if they are accurate.
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BTW, I would NOT buy or rig that boat with a 70hp 4-stroke as mentioned here. It needs a 90 to perform well.

Mine ran 40-44mph with the 2-stroke 90 yamaha.

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Prices are all over the place on these Hewes, I have a 1979 yes its 34 years old that just is completing a stringer up rebuild, with a '05 Yamaha 115 2 stroke I have been given unsolicited offers in the high teens/low 20's...
No re-build thread???
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Price will vary with the hull specifics:

Engine - older 2-stroke or did a repower get done to a newer 4-stroke? $$$
Trailer - Hi-end trailer like a Boat Master or Alumatrail or budget trailer?
Hull condition (gelcoat & no skid) - stored indoors or outdoors?
Options - trolling motor? New or older? Power-pole?

For a long time, 2-stroke engines were perferred on flats skiff because they generated more torque at start which got you up on plane faster (good on the flats). A 10 year old Redfisher 16 that was stored indoors, a well maintained Yamaha 90hp 2-stroke, a good trailer, trolling motor and trim tabs will be in demand.

Good luck -- they're out there.

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Old 07-03-2013, 09:04 AM   #13
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I've actually owned two Redfishers, one with a 2 and one with a four stroke. If I was ever to buy another one, I would definitely go with the 90 four stroke. The 115 is too much for the boat. The four stroke improved my fuel efficiency from around 4 MPG to almost 5.5 MPG average. Yes, it is a little heavier, but the motor matched well to the boat.

I just sold mine a few weeks ago.. Sad day seeing it drive away..
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The new Redfishers come rigged with a F90.
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In case you missed it.... Tomfl is right on the money. Older Redfishers were designed to have a relatively lightweight motor on the transom (and that's why the old 90 Yam 2smoke was the exact right choice). In recent years they re-designed that hull to be able to support the significant weight increase that a four stroke entails (even my E-Tec 90 at 320lbs is roughly sixty pounds heavier than that old Yam 90, 2 stroke... and the E-Tec is the only new two stroke available now.... a 90 four stroke is even heavier...).

If you're dealing with the newer hull (designed to have an addtional 100lbs on the transom) then a four stroke is just fine... Talk to the factory -they can tell you precisely what year model got the re-design. Those old Yam 90's were lightweight, quick, thirsty for gas, and noisy (compared to a modern two stroke like the E-Tec I run....), but they were exactly what the original redfisher 16 was designed to run with.
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Thanks for all the help. Glad I signed up here.
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That one for 14500 is a steal. Where was it located? Oh and check out my signature and look at the boat I am selling. Sounds like exactly what you are looking for. The boat has 112 hours
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That one for 14500 is a steal. Where was it located? Oh and check out my signature and look at the boat I am selling. Sounds like exactly what you are looking for. The boat has 112 hours
Yep. I see that. PM sent
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