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Old 06-18-2013, 12:32 PM
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Question Robalo R200 Owners, How do you like your boat?

Looking for more information and opinions on the Robalo R200. I have visited every website and forum I can find and there is not a lot of information out there.

So, If you have one, please give me your opinion.

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About to buy this boat, would REALLY appreciate any feedback I can get on it.....

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I have the R180, which I like quite a bit. I like the hull on the R200, its a little roomier and even beefier, but did not want the dough or to tow the extra weight with a mid size pickup. I know my dealer told me they sell more R200s than R180s, so there are guys out there with them for sure.

I am pretty sure of one thing: the boat needs the 150. I would not go near one with a 115. The 115 is adequate for the R180, the 150 would be better. I do see the 115 as nearly enough for the R200. I don't understand why they list the 115 as the base motor.
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I have been a lurker for a while. Reading up and learning. I am currently looking for a center console as well. I probably looked at the same boat as you did if you went to the South Jersey dealer. I haven't made up my mind yet but the r200 is still in the running. It is a big 20 footer. It is on par with most of the 21 footers I have looked at. I have heard rumors that the 2014 will include spring cleats. Some of the prices for options seem high to me. $2200 for the garmin 740? The no haggle pricing makes me feel like I am getting ripped off. we are trained to haggle on these things. Accepting their offer just doesn't sit right.

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It is on par with most of the 21 footers I have looked at.
I agree except for one particular. It does not have the deadrise of some. So while is is heavy with plenty of freeboard, and should ride well in comparison with many, it wont ride like a more offshore oriented boat, like the classic Hydrasports Vector 20'.

Other than that, though, it is a lot more boat than many. When I was shopping, I was comparing the R180 with boats like the 20' Sea Hunt. The R200 is bigger still.
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I do not own one but almost did,There is a lot to like, finally got my deposit back after a month of calls to the dealer. This may or may not help you and many may not agree, but here are the problems I had. I tried to get ahold of someone, anyone at the factory, couldn't get a live person, that seems like a problem. The dealer guaranteed that there was no wood products in the hull whatsoever, Turns out that the R180 And R200 do. They call it composite which is technically correct, composite means there is several or at least more than one type of material. The Owners manual that you can download goes into detail about the specially treated plywood in the stringers and why it will not rot. Anyway, whether or not you want wood in the hull is a personal preference, plenty of great boats do, but for future value I didn't want to buy a new boat with wood in it. BTW, the transoms are of a ceramic material not wood. So I call a little B.S. on the part of the dealer. Another problem was the enormous weight, the R200 is over 3000 lbs dry weight and with a 115 hp motor it is a slug, the r180 takes over 12 sec to reach 30 mph, I haven't been able to get the number for the R200. Yamaha performance bulletin shows top speed on the R200 at 42 mph with a 150 hp, nothing to write home about either. The real deal breaker for me was the so called "no haggle national sales price of $27,250"(R180, $32,000 on the R200) and the "Roballo Bottom line rebate event" which says all robalos have up to $12,000 in factory rebates,"Just ask dealer for details". Both turned out to be fiction. So the real price on a R200 with a 150 hp 4 stroke, in my area was over $42,000 before electronics and tax. Just my 2 cents. I stumbled into a nice buy on a barely used Century.
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I don't own a R200 but can tell you that Robalo fit and finish is great. There are lots of "extra" things in the boat that you don't see. The question is whether or not these extras are worth it. For example, we owned a Sea Hunt Triton 225 which was a great boat but the build quality was not as good as our Robalo but that's fine. After all, every time we used the Sea Hunt, it worked. The Sea Hunt is a light boat compared to a Robalo. Robalos are built like tanks. Sometimes, like in rough water, that is good and sometimes, like when you want speed, that's bad. Typical boat.....a tradeoff. So it boils down to what you want in a boat. We wanted a very dry, seaworthy boat and we didn't care whether or not our boat would win a new speed record so the Robalo got the vote. Someone else might rather have more speed and not care to be operating a cork in the water so a fast, light boat will be great. It's all about where you use your boat and what you like. I hope you get what you want and love it, whatever boat it may be.
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I had a R180. Great boat, great fit and finish. Owned by the same folks who make Chaparral so you know they make quality. Had plenty of power, great looks, easy to maintain. the 200 would be a great boat IMO.
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I have an R200 with the Yamaha F150 that i purchased new in 2005. It has the t top and curtains. The new R200 has some differences (deadrise, head in the console, livewell location, transom design, etc), so not sure how or if performance is altered. Confirm the 42 mph wot in flat water which has met my needs. I can't complain about the fuel economy...the performance bulletin is close. It does have trouble staying on plane at 3000rpm, though...no tabs. It has been a great boat for our family fishing, tubing/wakeboarding and cruising around.
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I bought a new R200 last year and sold it earlier this year. It was a second boat for me (I live in New England and have a 2010 Grady White Tournament 275 as my primary boat, but I also had a place in Naples Florida and bought the R200 to keep in Florida). I researched every 20' and 21' in the market and found that the price and performance of the R200 to be the best value I could find for my money (there were other boats like Scout that I liked better, but they were significantly more expensive). The R200 is a heavy boat (which I liked in terms of being very seaworthy). The fit and finish were very good (for the money). Although not at the same level as my Grady, a 20' Grady would have been almost double the price.

I ordered with trim tabs and had center cleats added (for some reason they are not included and it was fairly inexpensive to add). I bought the Garmin from my dealer for about the same price (but with local service in case I had an issue). I also had a custom bimini made (larger than the factory bimini and with stainless arches). The console head setup is really nice for a boat that size (and critically important if you are inviting women on the boat). The boat had a lot of seating and was a good cross between cruising boat and fishing boat.

I was very happy with the boat (I sold it when I lost the place in Naples because of a divorce). I did get to keep my 27' Grady (which I really love).

I would buy another R200 in a minute. No complaints and good factory support.
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I would not expect that on a boat that has only two seasons on it. Not at all. And the problem is, It's not going to ever get better. The powder coating Robalo used looks like it might have been a corner that was trimmed to keep the price point on the boat down?

Regardless, where your boat is only 18 months old, I'd haul it to the dealer you bought from and have them take a look. You might get something under warranty?
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Back in March we bought a Robalo R220 center after looking over lots of 22 and 23 foot centers. What sold us was the fit and finish and the full head in the console (wife). It's no speed demon with a Yam 225 F on the back but it tops out in the low forties. By the way the ride is very good for a 22 footer. I've owned 2 Grady's, 2 makos and 2 well crafts and this boats fit and finishs is just as good or better than my other boats. Mine is a 2004 model
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Thank you XP, I will talk to them tomorrow, thank you for the advice!!

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Thank you XP, I will talk to them tomorrow, thank you for the advice!!

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Talk to Tim, I'm confident he will fix it. Great Bay did a nice job on fixing my Robalo (I'm assuming you bought it there). I'm in a R180 and fish out of Captree alot...
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Bottom line, I love my R200. I'm a relatively new family boater, take it out in the Great South Bay on Long Island and it is the perfect boat for me and my family.
I agree, these are well suited for North Eastern waters. Here, freeboard and heft is more important than shallow water capability or suitability for use of a trolling motor. And while we have some nasty chop to deal with, we do a lot of drift fishing, and when fishing inshore tend not to go long distances, so the 18 degree deadrise is a good compromise.
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After almost 2 months, we got a response from Chaparral that they will not repair the powder coating on my boat. They say it falls outside of the one year warranty. Unfortunately I didn't report this problem the second I noticed it or it would have fallen within the warranty. So, buyer beware.

Personally I will not be buying another Robalo product again as they don't back up what they sell.

Just my experience, hopefully others will have a different experience. I think they rushed all these boats out the door and some were great and others were not.
I bought a Chaparral 270 in 2011. I can tell you the quality is NOT what is perceived of Chaparral's. Very disappointed; crappy wiring, cracked fiberglass, headliner has dropped in the cabin and they wont even call me back now. Personally, I would stay away from the Robalo/Chaparral products. All made in the same plant. I am not the only one with these problems, you should visit a Chaparral owner forum....
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speziak - My worry would be, since they apparently cheapened out on the PC, what other parts did they give the same treatment too?
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The same vendor does the powder coating for 90% of the marine industry. Hardly any manufacturers do their own powercoating on parts. The vendor's warranty is the same for each manufacturer they service. They are known as the best at what they do and definitely not "cheapening out", that's the reason most of your premium brands use them.
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I must say that my boat is made quite well and there wasn't any "cheapening out" when they built it. The fit and finish is as good as any so-called high end boat. I don't want this thread to turn into a Robalo bashing contest because in my opinion, Robalo makes a very nice boat and the ride in rough water is second to none.
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