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Old 05-14-2013, 05:52 AM
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when I raise the motor up past the trim and turn the wheel from side to side, at the very end of the turn the motor (steering) shakes and bumps. could that be the helm slipping and needing to be replaced or rebuilt? system is a 2008
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Might have air in the line.
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I thought that so I have turned the wheel hard one way and the helm level does go down so I add, then turn it hard the other way and add. am I better off completely bleeding the sustem?
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bleed the system thoroughly with automatic transmission fluid.
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Not suppose to turn the engine with the motor lifted.
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Do you have power steering and auto helm?
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no yamaha 150 and sea star hyd steering
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bleed the system thoroughly with automatic transmission fluid.
Why not put diesel fuel in your boat tank as well?

And, use some Skydrol in the trim and tilt system.
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Just adding fluid wont help. You need to bleed the system.
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Why not put diesel fuel in your boat tank as well?

And, use some Skydrol in the trim and tilt system.
Play with the Skydrol first then go play with the wife after you wash your hands of course.

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Maybe it's not air. Maybe it's something else, I'd like to hear if anyone knows of another cause - everyone seems to be assuming it's air

Sounds like air to me.

While I know it's impossible to bleed the system by adding fluid at the helm (I know this bc I've read so here several times), I've been lucky in that such laws don't apply to me. I've been able to add fluid at the helm via the seastar hose connection thing (that's the technical term) and turn the wheel from lock to lock until bubbles stop coming up the hose. This works best when you turn the wheel fast and go all the way against the lock. Doubles as a good arm/shoulder workout. I have a power knob, pretty sure it'd be hell to do this without one. Not sure if this is good for the unit long-term, but at the time I planned to replace the steering anyway so I didn't care.

Anyway, this was the easiest approach for me since my boat was wet slipped and this was simpler than bleeding. Did it a couple times last summer to hold off on rebuilding the ram.

Btw - if it's needing a bleeding, you'll want to figure out where the air came from. In my case, I was leaking fluid from the seal around the ram. The ram itself had very small pitting which was tearing up the seal.
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thanks I think I saw on the tv show ship shape an add for a company that rebuilds the steering helm and ram for less than $300 anyone know the company name?
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Instructions to purge air from system without special pumps, need 2 people:

http://www.seastarsolutions.com/wp-c...5/296221-E.pdf
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thanks I think I saw on the tv show ship shape an add for a company that rebuilds the steering helm and ram for less than $300 anyone know the company name?
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That would be us Boat Steering Rebuilders. Give us a call at 813-785-7146, Thanks, Butch
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First thing to check is make sure your O-ring on the steering wheel hub is intact and not letting air pass. Bleeding is tedious but usually remedies any air problems.
Slowely turn the steering wheel back and forth from stop to stop very slowely 10 times. make sure to keep the hub filled with fluid at all times. As the fluid replaces the air the fluid level will drop. add fluid accordingly.
if that doesnt eliminate the air problem check your hydraulic hose connections.
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