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I thought some like to know this. There is a fairly new anti-nausea drug out called Kytril that I think could really work for people with seasickness. It’s called Kytril and was developed for patients undergoing chemotherapy and radiation therapy, because they cannot tolerate drugs with strong side effects. It is considered so safe that they are now giving it to pregnant women with morning sickness. This is how I know about it because my wife just had a baby. Congratulations will be gladly accepted! Anything to help me feel better with the lack of sleep lately!
The only other anti-nausea drug that is commonly given to pregnant women is Phenergan, which has been out a long time and is proven to be very safe, but has one major side effect -- sleepiness! The Navy commonly gives it to seasick sailors along with caffeine to offset the drowsiness. Kytril doesn’t have this side effect!
If you look Kytril up it will have a long nasty list of possible side effects, like most drugs do for legal reasons. But if you ask a doctor knowledge with it they will tell you the possibility of the side effects is very remote.
The wife had a couple of pills left over and Sunday so we tried it on this guy who has been seasick every time he has been offshore. Sometimes he gets sick just from the boat ride. Most people don’t get sick until the boat stops and starts rocking, but he is the worst I have seen and I have seen quite a few. He was fine the whole day.
There is one major problem with the drug. The retail cost is $70 a pill. With our insurance it cost $10 a pill. $10 is well worth it to avoid getting sick when you consider what an offshore trip costs! I don’t have any first hand experience, but since the drug is so safe I would think most GP's wouldn’t have a problem prescribing it for someone bothered by seasickness. The patch is a prescription drug so doctors are used to prescribing for seasickness already, and I believe Kytril is way more effective than the patch or any overcounter motion sickness drug.
Stop throwing up; it ruins the trip for everyone else!
don
Congrats on the new addition Don. Hope mom and baby are doing well. Although my youngest is 27 now, I still remember those nights without sleep. Good luck to you and family, you will learn to cope.
The new drug sounds promising but like most of todays meds, the wallet gets raped at the druggist counter. Glad I and most of my boating friends dont have the auto chum problem
There is a drug called Stugeron Forte which is an anti vertigo drug. It is used in Europe and available in Mexico. Say what you want about the potential for bootlegging in Mexico but my son was extremely ill on a 2 day tuna trip this turned him around after 15 minutes. I've used it since and it's a life saver that was recommended by a hard core yachtsman friend.
If you look Kytril up it will have a long nasty list of possible side effects.....
The wife had a couple of pills left over and Sunday so we tried it on this guy......
Does the package insert say that it is so safe to go ahead and practice medicine without a license by trying it on some guy?
Do you have a rider on your insurance to cover bad outcomes when practicing medicine without a license on your boat?
OBTW..... those "long lists of nasty side effects" make it to the list because they have actually happened during trials even if only one in 50,000 have occurred.
Congrats on new addition! Thanks for posting about Kytril. I'll do some digging and see what's out there on it. You're right, all it takes is ONE sick person to ruin the trip for everyone. Even if it cost $70 but kept everyone on board OK, it would be worth it. Our trips are going to run about $200 a day this season.
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Congrats on the addition!! BTW there is a time proven drug on the market made especially for fathers of newborns for sleepless nights..... It's called Vodka. It is made in designer and generic form as well. No prescription needed (but you might need one to counteract the side affects)!!
I had a friend who's wife had tried everything OTC on the market with no success. A friend suggested going to the health food store and getting ginger tablets. They worked! They worked when nothing else would. I'd suggest giving them a try.
There is an article in the new issue of Salt Water Sports Fisherman Magazine comparing different products, unfortunately they didn't mention Kytril or Phenergan, maybe because they where prescription only(I'm not having more kids just to get my hands on some [img]../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif[/img] ).
One of my favorites is Smooth Sailing. It has the well known ginger, drug free, and you can take it when you start feeling seasick for quick relief. For that reason alone it's worth keeping some on board, for those times when your guest start getting a little green.
Ok, does that really make a difference. Is this the doctors office or something. Just a little friendly advice from someone trying to help everyone out and someone has to come along and over analyze it. Figures
If he had charged his friend alot of money to tell him something he already new that was ten years out of date I'd say he was guilty of "practicing medicine without a license".
They said that there were no real problems with Vioxx. The reports on heart problems were there long before they pulled it off the market. I had it prescribe for me in 1999 and I refused to take it. I was told by my physician that the drug was really safe. We all now know the truth on that one now. If you are going to take something like this for seasickness, at google it by its name and adverse reactions. Another possibility is google Pubmed (National Library of Medicine) again search drug name adverse reactions. If you don't fully understand the information, ask you physician or pharmacist to explain it. There are safer simpler alternatives than Kytril (cheaper too). As a pharmacist my contention is that medicine is made to be sold for its intended purpose and used in the lowest dose to be effective.
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The "Mythbusters" TV show had an episode where they tested various motion sickness remedies (not the above mentioned prescription meds). If I recall correctly the only one that worked consistently was ginger.
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I don't mkae the laws.... just pointing out there are such things out there...(of course that was a year ago... but my statement is legit and based in common sense)
As a doctor I see things get screwed up all the time by people with good intentions... "we figured if it worked on uncle Bob it would be good for Granny....
The side effect profile of the drug is not benign.... the post essentially told everyone... don't worry.... but...
The drug is not indicated for anything other than nasea and vomiting after chemo or surgery..... so what the poster is suggesting is you can use it for an "off label use".... (there are laws that prevent drug reps from doing this)
When doctors prescribe a drug for an off label use they run the risk of trouble unless it is considered a standard practice to do so.
The cost of the drug is about 100 dollars for one pill.... why... so little of it is used....and the drug companies can get away with it... but that is off topic. Try getting a doctor to prescribe it for seasickness and you will a. likely find out they won't b. get an Rx and find the drug store doesn't have it.. but they can get it for you c. find out your insurance will not pay for it... and if you were to get through all that you may find out you spent one hundred dollars for a pill that gave you a headace and diarrhea but did nothing for you seasickness.....
Ok, does that really make a difference. Is this the doctors office or something. Just a little friendly advice from someone trying to help everyone out and someone has to come along and over analyze it. Figures
Of course someone has to come along and analyze it... that's what we do here.... duh
If you came here and gave some "friendly advice" that it is OK to put a 200 hp motor on a hull rated for 150 hp people.... all the amateur and professional boating experts would give you hell about it.... and rightfully so.....
The "Mythbusters" TV show had an episode where they tested various motion sickness remedies (not the above mentioned prescription meds). If I recall correctly the only one that worked consistently was ginger.
Did they test the OTC herbals with prescription meds, like Scopalomine, which I take?
Esfishdoc, what is your take on Scopalomine? My neighbor, who is a MD (urologist) gives me an RX for this.
New drug to cure seasickness - Really works! 
