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Old 04-03-2013, 01:49 PM
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Default Big Decision / Tidewater 230 LXF vs. NauticStar 2200 XS

Decision time. Tidewater 230 LXF vs. NauticStar 2200 XS Offshore - After weeks of doing the research, giving up on finding a used boat only 2 or 3 years old, I have decided to buy a new boat.

I have narrowed it down to these two boats. The out the door quotes are within $441 dollars and the Tidewater is the lower one. Both are outfitted basically the same - same electronics, motor (250 Yamaha), trailer, porta-pottie, cushions, motor and console covers etc...

NauticStar 2200 XS OS - $60,091.77 (out the door, tax, title, CG kit, 20 hr service) - Maybe a little more negotiation is possible.
Tidewater 230 LXF - $59,650.00 (out the door, tax, title, CG kit, 20 hr service). Final price.

I am leaning ever so slightly towards the Tidewater because it feels a little bigger (high gunnels) and I like the walk through bow. But, the NauticStar only has a 12' draft vs.15" for the Tidewater (my canal is a little on the shallow side). Both boats seem well made and fit and finish are very comparable.

Which one would you buy?
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I looked at both in January. Not a fan of the LXF layout, but definitely prefer it to NauticStar. I didn't care for the ergonomics of the NauticStar, nor the console, nor the forward seating.

$60k seems high to me though for either of those.
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I looked at both in January. Not a fan of the LXF layout, but definitely prefer it to NauticStar. I didn't care for the ergonomics of the NauticStar, nor the console, nor the forward seating.

$60k seems high to me though for either of those.
Thanks. On both the prices started out around 49K, but the trailer is $3400, GPS/FF, covers, stereo, VHF, Tax $3500, etc... = $60K
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Jeez man than seems a little high. Have you taken a look at other options? Just to put this into perspective I'm paying 70k trailer tax and everything out the door and mine is 25 feet with 2 engines....A guy I have been talking to got quoted under 50 with tax title, and trailer loaded out for a 22.7 foot Dusky...I'm pretty sure you can get a Bluewater 2150 for under or around 60 and that is a lot more boat than those 2...

He ended up getting a 22 foot cobia for like 52ish I believe...
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I agree with finsfan...even with all the extras, still too high for a mid tier production boat. Shop around more and visit a boat show before committing.
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I bought a Sea Hunt Ultra 234 in Dec. Yammy 250 Digital, tackle station, trim tabs, radio hull color, vhf a really good antenna with trailer for 50,200 out the door. The Tidewater equipped very close was within a 1000.0
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$60k seems high to me though for either of those.
agree

Add the Pioneer 22 into the mix
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I'll keep shopping around. I did get pricing from several dealers on the Tidewater, and they all are pretty close, the one above being the lowest. The Sea Hunt, Sea Born and Sea Fox all seemed to be a lower tier boat, and priced only a few grand less.When pricing out the Tidewater and NauticStar they start in the mid/high 40s, then trailer $3400, GPS $1200 (min), stereo, porta-potty, covers, taxes, and boom you are hovering around 60. Seems high to me too.
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I'm telling you now sea hunt and cobia are better boats than nautic star. There is a guy around here that has a nautic star and the boat came from the dealer with a hole in it....and they are doing nothing about it. The only reason I didn't say tidewater is because I barely know anything about them. All I know is they look mid tier and are heavily mass produced. If I had a guess I would think they wouldn't be better than Sea Hunt or Cobia.
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I own a Tidewater and have had zero issues with it. It rides great, is extremely fuel efficient, and is pretty well put together. I really enjoy the boat for both fishing and family.

Having said that, I don't think Sea Hunt or Cobia would be considered a lower tier boat than Tidewater or Nautic Star. I combed over several brands when I bought mine, and they've all got their strong and weak points in this price range.

My best advice, sea trial them both and pick the one you like best and can afford. You will be no better or worse off than anyone else on here with an opinion.

I do really think the LXF layout is pretty slick, though.

Also, don't know what area of the country you're from, but if you're near the mid-atlantic region check out Rt. 113 Boat Sales for the Tidewater. They're pretty aggressive with their pricing. Might save you some $$$.

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I'm telling you now sea hunt and cobia are better boats than nautic star....If I had a guess I would think they wouldn't be better than Sea Hunt or Cobia.
I know "tiers" are often argued here, but Cobia is a much nicer and better built boat than either SH or TW.

Sea Hunt and Tidewater are directly comparable, and should be priced similarly. A Cobia 237 costs considerably more than a Sea Hunt 234 ($10k-$13k), and it's worth that extra cost if you have the money. The Tidewater isn't.
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I don't understand why you got quoted 60k for that 22 foot tidewater. I was doing a little research and you can the 25 foot tidewater with twin 150s for 65-70k. These boats look fairly decent for the money but how is the build quality of them....I see a lot of frills which isn't a good thing on a cheap boat.
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Tidewater, I would stay away from Nauti especially at that price...
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I don't understand why you got quoted 60k for that 22 foot tidewater.
For the same reason some dealers quote $60k on a 234 Sea Hunts or 229 Sportsman.
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u can get a Sea Hunt BX 24 BR with a 300 loaded for 60,000.I have one 2013 model.It will outride both those boat and can do any type of fishing u want.it will make both those boats look small and still only draft 15 inches.U might want to look at it. QUOTE=shadven;5521671]Decision time. Tidewater 230 LXF vs. NauticStar 2200 XS Offshore - After weeks of doing the research, giving up on finding a used boat only 2 or 3 years old, I have decided to buy a new boat.

I have narrowed it down to these two boats. The out the door quotes are within $441 dollars and the Tidewater is the lower one. Both are outfitted basically the same - same electronics, motor (250 Yamaha), trailer, porta-pottie, cushions, motor and console covers etc...

NauticStar 2200 XS OS - $60,091.77 (out the door, tax, title, CG kit, 20 hr service) - Maybe a little more negotiation is possible.
Tidewater 230 LXF - $59,650.00 (out the door, tax, title, CG kit, 20 hr service). Final price.

I am leaning ever so slightly towards the Tidewater because it feels a little bigger (high gunnels) and I like the walk through bow. But, the NauticStar only has a 12' draft vs.15" for the Tidewater (my canal is a little on the shallow side). Both boats seem well made and fit and finish are very comparable.

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Love my Tidewater
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I LOL when I see these "buy a sea hunt" M*****F*****'s

I think it's a cult....LOL
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Just got my 23 LXF with trailor and 225 with t top and curtains including tax fresh water and underwater lights 52000 Draft is 14 also.Best planning boat ever very dry ride
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Jeez, call Chatlee for pricing on the NS. That price would buy the 25' version. And I would definitely go NS over Tidewater.

Heck, Chatlee had a used NS 2200 on their site:

http://www.chatleeboats.com/Page.asp...e-2200-OS.aspx

Smaller engine, but you can see that $60K would be wildly overpriced for new.
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