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Evinrude E-TEC V-4 and V-6 New Models Details
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V-4 115-HP and 130-HP
Both of these new designs are built on 60-degree V-4 blocks with 1.726-liter displacement. The piston bore and stroke is 91mm X 66mm. They are available in 20-inch (L) and 25-inch shaft (XL) lengths; the long shafts have 2:1 gearing and the extra-long shafts have 2.25:1 gearing. The weight is 375 to 380 pounds, depending on model.
The 115-HP turns 4500-5500 RPM, while the 130-HP can crank to 6000-RPM.
Of course, both use E-TEC fuel induction systems. They both can produce 50-amperes of NET charging current, and can be ordered with optional dual battery isolation. The standard warranty is three years, non-declining.
V-6 150-HP, 175-HP, and 200-HP
All three engines are built on a 60-degree V-6 block with 2.589-liter displacement. They use the same pistons as the V-4, 91mm x 66mm. They are all available in either 20-inch or 25-inch shafts and come with either 1.86:1 or 1:85:1 gearing depending on which model gearcase (normal or HO) is ordered. The weights range from 418 to 423 pounds.
These three engines are rated to 5500-RPM maximum, and all produce 50-amperes of NET charging current, also available with dual battery isolation. Standard warranty is three years, non-declining.
VARIABLE EXHAUST TUNING
The "hot" engines in this series, the 130-HP and 200-HP, have a new and exclusive Evinrude feature: variable exhaust tuning. At low RPM the exhaust passage is tuned for maximum torque and low end power. At higher speeds a valve in the exhaust passage is electronically manipulated to re-tune the exhaust pulses for high speed running. This increases power and also improves high RPM fuel economy. This is a feature exclusive to the Evinrude E-TEC outboard.
CAN BUS / NMEA-2000 CONNECTIVITY
These new V-4 and V-6 60-degree motors have NMEA-2000 standard connectivity to the engine data bus. NMEA-2000 is the new open architecture industry standard for instrumentation and navigation equipment.
STANDARD E-TEC and EVINRUDE ADVANTAGES
These engines have the standard E-TEC advantages, including 500-RPM idle for excellent trolling or fishing at low speeds. Fuel economy is outstanding at low speeds as well.
Like other E-TEC engines, there is no scheduled maintenance for 300-hours. Spark plug life had been improved with a new platinum tipped rivet spark plug electrode. Exhaust has been optimized for total idle bypass flow at low speeds, reducing back pressure. The cooling system has been improved for better flushing and can purge itself of debris when running at speed. The oil lubrication system uses a single line oil feed. Oil supply is monitored with a pressure transducer instead of a switch, and this makes the lubrication system much "smarter." The system can detect any problems in the oil flow and lubrications system and put the engine into S.A.F.E Mode (Speed Adjusting Failsafe Electronics). The engine can run for five hours with no oil when in S.A.F.E. mode. The engines self-winterize, too. The engines are CARB-Three Star rated; you can even buy and use them in California.
AVAILABLE
These engine should be available in the fall of 2005, joining the other E-TEC engines. The line will then be:
In-line 2-cylinder: 40, 50, 60-HP
In-line 3-cylinder: 75, 90-HP
V-4: 115 and 130-HP
V-6 2.5-liter: 150, 175, and 200-HP
V-6 3.3-liter: 200-HO, 225, 225-HP, and 250-HP
The E-TEC is the first and so far only outboard motor to be awarded the US EPA Clean Air Excellence Award.
NEMA coming from the engine would be a great step forward - ability to have EVERY nav, engine and FF data stream avail for display on your twin 12 inch screens would be clean and simple....
Yup, that is what I was thinking. I think it is super what Merc has with Navman, but with the connectivity of all electronics it only makes sense to have the engines connected too. Certainly is a nice step forward. I hope my 250 has this. Would be neat to have all the data right there on the screen.
Instruments designed specifically for the NMEA (National Marine Electronics Association) 2000TM certified Evinrude E-TEC V6 engines will be available for enhanced display of engine and boat performance information. Multiple functions are integrated into an easy-to-use tachometer and speedometer to display all data; RPM, MPH, volts, fuel level, engine trim, oil level, water pressure, engine temperature, engine hours, engine diagnostics, and fuel flow. If separate displays are desired, individual instruments can be easily added through a "plug and play" design.
The I-Command plug and play technology is based on the NMEA 2000TM standard, permitting a simpler and faster transfer of information from engine and boat sensors. This means multiple electronics like an NMEA 2000 GPS or fish locator can be easily added to the network.
COMPANY: Lowrance Electronics, Inc.
BOOTH: 512 & 514
PRODUCT: LowranceNet™
PRODUCT CATEGORY: OEM Electronics and Electrical Systems
For 2005, Lowrance is introducing an entirely new, extremely simplified, and highly cost-effective marine electronics data-sharing networking system called LowranceNet™ Utilizing the latest industry NMEA 2000 data standard, anglers and boaters can network an infinite number of Lowrance Electronic Probes (E.P.s) and display devices to present helpful sonar, GPS, radar, and engine diagnostic readouts on any or all the displays within the system – from Lowrance NMEA 2000-capable sonar and GPS units, to new, incredibly affordable multi-function gauges. From water depth, GPS position, livewell water temp, to fuel consumption rates, engine RPM, oil pressure, trim tab settings, and much more, LowranceNet™adds up to an innovative new high-performance data networking system that’s incredibly affordable.
COMPANY: Faria Marine Instruments
BOOTH: 2416
PRODUCT: MG2000 System™
PRODUCT CATEGORY: OEM Electronics and Electrical Systems
The Faria MG2000 System represents a breakthrough in electronic marine engine monitoring instrumentation. While a standard marine communication protocol has been proposed, NMEA 2000, boat builders are actually faced with up to five different communication protocols depending on engine type/brand.
The Faria MG2000 System’s open architecture enables the boat builder to develop a standardized instrument panel for all engine types rather than changing the dash for each type of engine used. Today, the Faria MG2000 Tach is the only instrument on the market to interface with all of the following engine communication protocols:
* NMEA 2000 Certified for Evinrude & Yamaha Outboards
* SmartCraft Networked™ for Mercury & Cummins Engines
* J1587 for Volvo Penta Marine Engines
* ALDL for PCM® Marine Engines & Indmar Engines
* J1939 CAN for Diesel Engines
I'm waiting for someone to build a serial port connector into the engines with a pigtail that wuld connect to your laptop so you could look at your engine run history. I realize that you can buy the software that the techs use but I'm talking about a CD and the pigtail coming with every new purchase to the owner.
What kind of performance difference would I expect if I replaced my twin 89' Yamaha 130's with a pair of E-TEC 130's (Pursuit 2350 W/A). Increased top end? Better economy? I have been looking at re-powering and just don't want to add weight and less HP (4 stroke) and a single 250 would fly but twins are nice! I'm really interested in how these engines pan out.
MarVista Man - 5/3/2005 11:55 PM
What kind of performance difference would I expect if I replaced my twin 89' Yamaha 130's with a pair of E-TEC 130's (Pursuit 2350 W/A). Increased top end? Better economy?
Don't expect any performance benefits, but you will save a ton on fuel and even more on oil !
I'm not going to say they will "pay for themselves", because that depends on how many hours per year you use them, the price of gas and oil, and how many year you will keep them. Use the search function. Seahorse quoted some numbers a few months ago.
E-Tec is the simplest DFI 2 stroke technology on the market today (Tohatsu is a close second).
funny how evenyone has their skirts all buched up over these motors. The only thing different betwen them and the optis seems to be the tunable exhaust. Well that and the spark plug.
funny how evenyone has their skirts all buched up over these motors. The only thing different betwen them and the optis seems to be the tunable exhaust. Well that and the spark plug.
Besides the fact that the fuel injection systems are completely different, Merc doesn't have a recreational 25 inch 200 Opti with a 2.5 L displacement. It does have a 2.5L Optimax 200 XS but that needs to run on 91 octane fuel and it doesn't come in a 25 inch shaft length.
The E-TEC 200 seems like a very good candidate for clean and green twins (850 lbs) on a 23/24 foot CC rated for 400 HP. Next lightest clean and green 200s (Suzi/Yamaha) load up that transom with another 300 lbs.
When buying twin 250 Etecs.what would you all think is the appropriate or necessary gauges for the dash???? Looking for help to set mine up..............
Evinrude Johnson System Check Helmsman Gauge Kit
Price: $797.20
Weight: 14.10 lbs.
Constantly monitors over 40 functions and provides a visual display in text format of System Check codes with diagnostic messages in multiple languages.
Intelligent stepper motor instruments for increased reliability and accuracy. Instruments are connected by a daisy chain harness with quick connect waterproof connectors.
Easy to Read Digital Displays provide a digital readout of speed, depth, clock, temperatures, hour meter, voltmeter.
OR................
Price: $294.00
Weight: 6.20 lbs.
BLACK GOLD Gold Bezel with Black Face
Domed fog resistant lens, polished gold bezel, perimeter lighted black dial with white and gold graphics, white teardrop pointer.
Meets Minimum Warranty requirements for all Evinrude Johnson applications.
The System Check Commander gauges are multi-function gauges that combine the features of several instruments into one single unit. A Tachometer or Speedometer is shown as a standard analog display and an LCD displays information for the other functions including depth, fuel flow, and hour meter. Their three-button design makes set-up, using and scrolling between func¡tions very user friendly. Putting these gauges into your boat could not be easier. Easy to use, quick connectors make watertight connections a snap. No special drilling required.
Differences between Opti's and E-TEC's off the top of my head
1. No break-in
2. No service required until 300 hours
3. quieter (I don't really care about this... but others do)
4. uses less 2-stroke oil (100:1)
5. 500 rpm idle for trolling
6. 50 amp net charging amp circuit
7. lighter ( 74 pounds on 200hp models)
the break in and no service for 300 hours is merely a marketing gamble. They plate the cylinders and then diamond hone them just like the optis have done. You really dont have to break in lots of motors these days, it's just not advertised because of the risk that retards will still screw them up. And if you are willing to run the lower unit 300 hours without replacing the fluid you are nuts.
quieter isnt a technological break through.
the optis also use the same oiling method and also can go 100:1 at idle. They also had the level 3 star rating several years ago with the 135's.
my optis are also computer controlled to limit the idle down to 500 rpms.
my optis also pump 50 amps out of the alternators.
Like I said there is very little difference between the opti's and the etecs, thats why you dont see bomb comparing them together. It would look silly to say your new technological break through motor has the same stuff on a motor thats been out for 5 years already.
Oh and the optis also had all the engine info available on their displays years ago too. And that nema is still going to be prorietary nema stuff that will require the gps or ff recognize the sentences.
Bombardier Announces New E-TEC V-4, V-6 
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