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Old 04-21-2005, 10:21 AM
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Default Most economical towing vehicle rated for 5000#?

What vehicle, that is rated to tow 5000#, would get the best mpg when not towing? What would be the mpg when towing and not towing for that vehicle?
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Don't know if it the best, but not a bad start.
2005 Tacoma, v-6, 4x4, double cab, 20mpg normal and 15mpg towing a 20' boat.
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Hmm that is hard to say. My opinion is that if you are wanting to tow 5000# you should get a vehicle that is rated somewhere above that so that you are not towing at the vehicle's limit. For example, the rig I just bought is probably right at 5000# and my Tundra is rated at 6900# so I think that this is probably the usual safe limit.

At 5000# you may be able to get away with a V6 with limited towing but a V8 would be better for long distance towing.

Most fuel efficient, I wish I knew....but I dont. Many mags have towing issues where every truck and SUV is listed with their tow ratings and other data. I would suggest a trip to the magazine store.
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Last year, New, 2004 1500 silverado 5.3L (300hp) 4x4, many options minus leather, $26.8k

I would guess the Dakota with v-8 is the least expensive. Try kbb.com
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The Ford Powerstroke diesel is the first one I would look at for towing something 5000# and up. I would also go for the 7.3L (?) engine model just prior to the 6.0L they just started using. I have a buddy with a 7.3 in an Excursion and he gets 20mph without a load. They lose less economy than a gasoline engine when towing. The newer 6.0 Powerstrokes are nice, but fuel economy is not quite as good. Another thing to consider is that diesel prices are usually 5-10 /gallon cheaper than gasoline in the summer. They tend to run a little higher than gasoline in the winter.
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Online, point well taken. The boat is 2300# + motor + trailer = 4000#. I allowed a difference of 1000# between total weight and desired vehicle rated towing capacity. I appreciate all feedback as this is a decision I am currently making.
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I can second the nomination for a Toyota Tacoma. I have the quad-cab V-6 (2003 model). Tows 3000-4000 comfortably (max of 5000, but this would be pushing it). Gas mileage is 21 hwy; towing is 14-15. A round trip towing day for me is around 150 miles.

I have always been a strict "Made in the USA" purchaser, but I had too many problems with my Ford Explorer (don't get me started!) and GMC trucks. My Tacoma has 120,000 miles on it -- never been in the shop, only general maintainance. I'm going for 250,000.

Used Tacoma's, though, are very pricy. You get what you pay for.
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Economical to me means used. Jeep Cherokee with the 4.0 l straight 6 cyl and tow pkg would do nicely for short to mid length trips. Would look for something beefier if you do long distance or mountains. Rated at 5000lbs with brakes on the trailer.

If you want new, you NEED a 4X4 DIESEL DUALLY!
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keep in mind that the longer the wheel base the better it will ride/tow/track with a 5000lbs load. you don't say how mutch you will be towing? nd weather it will be for the family also?
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The Ford Powerstroke diesel is the first one I would look at for towing something 5000# and up. I would also go for the 7.3L (?) engine model just prior to the 6.0L they just started using. I have a buddy with a 7.3 in an Excursion and he gets 20mph without a load. They lose less economy than a gasoline engine when towing. The newer 6.0 Powerstrokes are nice, but fuel economy is not quite as good. Another thing to consider is that diesel prices are usually 5-10 /gallon cheaper than gasoline in the summer. They tend to run a little higher than gasoline in the winter.
Has your buddy with the 7.3L Excursion Diesel put any chips in it or anything? I don't get near that efficiency with my 7.3L Diesel Excursion. Is his 4x4? Mine is, so if his isn't, that may be the difference. Also, what is the weight that he's pulling?
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Yes, he does have a chip in it and it is 2 wheel drive. I can't remember which chip, but that thing will flat get with the program. I think he told me he gets 21mpg in the highway. He doesn't tow much though, so he won't be able to help you there. My father in law has a 7.3 with a chip and he tows big stuff with it. I think he's a dealer for the chips, or maybe he used to be. If you want, email me I can find out more info for you.
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I'm a firm believer in towing about half the rated capacity. That said I have a 5000lb boat and I bought a 2003 cummins quad cab to tow it with. The used truck has 40k miles on it and was a good bit cheaper than a new v-6 import quad cab truck. I get 14-15mpg towing and 20-21 on the road. Cummins is over kill but it tows like it isn't back there. Nice to know I'm not coming close to killing the truck towing the boat... 100, 500, 1000 mile tow? Absoluely no worries. I like it that way.. If the cummins deal hadn't landed in my lap I was just about to pull the trigger on an e350 (econoline van) with the powerstroke. Amazing how cheap you can find them (e350's) for and a ton of possibilites for the interior if you are a bit handy!
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lol..diesel 4x4's for a 5k# boat.

You guys kill me.
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lol..diesel 4x4's for a 5k# boat.

You guys kill me.
Gotta agree with you there Joe. He certainly doesn't need a Diesel 4x4 to tow 4000lbs! Geez. I would take a serious look at the Jeep Cherokee or Grand Cherokee for SUV's and the Dodge Dakota for pickups. I have a 99 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 with the tow package and its rated for 5000lbs. I tow a 2000lb loaded boat with it and its no trouble. I wouldn't want to pull 4k on the highway alot, but to the ramp would be fine. I get about 16 around town and 21 on the highway and about 14 towing to the ramp or 17 towing on the highway.

Good luck, and don't let these guys convince you that you need a diesel 4x4.
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lol..diesel 4x4's for a 5k# boat.
You guys kill me.
Major overkill. Look below and you'll see what's pulled my 22' Bay boat around for the last year and a half. 6 cyl and 4WD. It may be slow, but it gets there every time.

How about a Diesel Jeep Liberty? 4x4 with the Diesel engine rated for 5000 lbs MSRP of ~ $25,700. You KNOW it's less than that.... probably by about $2K. Estimated Hwy Mileage ~ 24 mpg.

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If you want the best milage then a Cummins Diesel will get about 17mpg pulling that weight--won't be cheaper to buy but it would be cheaper to run--plus if you every move up to a bigger boat like I did (After only 2 years) then you won't have to trade tow vechiles.
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Man, I hope you guys didn't really think I was recommending a diesel 4x4. Thats why I put the little winky thingy on that statement. My '99 Jeep Cherokee gets 22-23 hwy and about 19 around town. I'm pretty light footed. My old boat/trailer combo weighed in a little over 2k, I believe the 4.0 could easily pull double that.

Obviously it aint gonna work with the Carolina. F350 should be here first week of May for that
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Definatly a 6 ton dually diesel. sorry, couldnt resist...
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I don't know about the towing/not towing mileage, but the new '05 Nissan Xterra would get the job done nicely. It has a new, larger engine and plenty of torque. I have an '04 Xterra that tows my 20' CC pretty well, and it has 80 hp less than the '05.
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Alvis: I have an older, 1995 Chevy S-10 Blazer 4WD with the the 4.3 liter V-6. Max tow rating is 5500 lbs. Mine is actually 5,000 lbs. with the 3.73 rear end. Not towing, I get 24 mpg (easy) highway driving and 15 mpg around town. I wouldn't call my truck 'reliable' as compared to Toyota, but it does tow well.

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