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Old 01-21-2013, 10:34 AM
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There's a reason no boat chemical companiues put bleach in their deck cleaners. Or muriatic acid, or toilet bowl cleaner. But its your boat so use what mkaes you happy.
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There's a reason no boat chemical companiues put bleach in their deck cleaners. Or muriatic acid, or toilet bowl cleaner. But its your boat so use what mkaes you happy.
Please explain to everyone what Sodium Hypochlorite, the main ingredient is StarBright Mildew Stain Remover is..

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Sodium hypochlorite is a chemical compound with the formula NaClO. Sodium hypochlorite solution, commonly known as bleach or liquid bleach, is frequently used as a disinfectant or a bleaching agent.[1]

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will result in a shorter life for them, due primarily to it's effect on the threads holding them together.
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Sodium Hypochlorite AKA Bleach does not react with plastics, fiberglass, gel coat etc. It reacts with organic materials and can be corrosive to metals but is very safe to use. Bleach works by breaking down the molecular bond of organic materials to destroy them (thats why its bad to use long tern on natural fibers like cotton). The weakest of the molecular bonds are associated with color, This is why bleach whitens organic stains very well.

Bleach is use in our drinking water and thousand of household products. It breaks down into salt and water every quickly as it reacts with organics or is exposed to heat/sunlight.
It does not harm soft plastic pool liners, FIBERGLASS pools, or any of the plastic/fiberglass parts used in the pool industry even though those exposures are very high concentrations and are 24/7.
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will result in a shorter life for them, due primarily to it's effect on the threads holding them together.
Only if your cushions have cotton threads which have not been used for a VERY long time.
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I use bleach, or more specificaly clorox spray cleaner with bleach in it from time to time. I'm not sure its the best way to go for weekly wash downs, but I never had an issue with using it once or twice a season if things happen to get really dirty for some reason and won't clean up with my normal cleaners. I am aware that it will take off the wax, so you just need to be concious of that.

I know people say not to use bleach on fabric or on coushins, but I have brought some really bad looking ones back to life with bleach. My wife uses bleach just about everytime she does a load of whites. I have some tshirts still from highschool so I"m not sure how bad bleach can be on threads and cloth.
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Been using bleach in a pump sprayer for my boats for years. The only way to keep a boat clean period. I don't see any wear and tear on my seat cushions or bolsters.
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I think some people have been drinking koolaid. Has anybody actually had a cushions threads fall apart that wasn't from wear and could actually be attributed to the bleach?
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I think some people have been drinking koolaid. Has anybody actually had a cushions threads fall apart that wasn't from wear and could actually be attributed to the bleach?
amen...what hogwash...used bleach on cushions for 20 years with never a thread out of place...now granted, I don't let the bleach dwell on threads, it gets rinsed right away, but never a problem...this is wayyyyy overblown using common sense....

there are 4 liquids that were invaluable to me when boating...all generate paranoia here at one time or another:

bleach
acetone
rubbing alcohol
mineral spirits
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there are 4 liquids that were invaluable to me when boating...all generate paranoia here at one time or another:

bleach
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rubbing alcohol
mineral spirits
You forgot beer.
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wodka.....and still fits the paranoia criteria....
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wodka.....and still fits the paranoia criteria....


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Nate, you have to change your picture.
That is just so, so, so, ummm, wrong.
I mean, I practically have to pluck out my eyes every time I accidentally see it.
Come on, what are women and children going to think when it appears on the monitor?

sheesh, come on, light beer? Really
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The chlorines and hypoclorites are tough on stainless and brass finishes, so I look at them and any other strong cleaners as something to consider as a heavy hammer to use infrequenty on large areas, but more regularily to smaller all fiberglass, glass or plastic areas.
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Please explain to everyone what Sodium Hypochlorite, the main ingredient is StarBright Mildew Stain Remover is..

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Sodium hypochlorite is a chemical compound with the formula NaClO. Sodium hypochlorite solution, commonly known as bleach or liquid bleach, is frequently used as a disinfectant or a bleaching agent.[1]

The difference is in marketing as you can see in his signature,. but in his defense he was referring to deck cleaners not mildew removers (which all contain bleach, tilex=bleach, because it works on mildew).

there is nothing bad about bleach, its not going to ruin your boat, I have been using bleach for stains and mildew for the last 20 years without an issue, that being said, I use it for stains (there is no reason to use it to knock the salt off the bow rails and hull, water can do that). In the old days you had to worry about wiring, hoses, and stitching but all of that is different now and for the most part inert in respect to chemicals.
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bleach is great, will not harm anything. use a pump sprayer let it sit in the sun for a few, she will look like new
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Star brite MSR is not a deck cleaner. It is a Mildew Stain Remover. We make a NonSkid Deck Cleaner - it does not contain bleach.

MSR's main ingredient is not the same stuff as the $.99 laundry bleach you get at Publix.
If using bleach makes you happy, go for it. Tons of folks do so. All I said was that few if any chemical companies use bleach in their deck cleaners

Bleach can and has damaged a lot of vinyl upholstery by eating up the threads that hold it together.It will kil sealife. It is caustic. If you doubt that, stick your hand in a bucket of pure bleach and see how long you can keep it there before it starts to burn your skin. Get it in your eyes and we'll call you One Eyed Willy. Just sayin
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Sure is a reason.... and that reason is bleach is 1.99 a gallon and their products are 19.99 a gallon and work half as good.

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Star brite MSR is not a deck cleaner. It is a Mildew Stain Remover. We make a NonSkid Deck Cleaner - it does not contain bleach.

MSR's main ingredient is not the same stuff as the $.99 laundry bleach you get at Publix.
If using bleach makes you happy, go for it. Tons of folks do so. All I said was that few if any chemical companies use bleach in their deck cleaners

Bleach can and has damaged a lot of vinyl upholstery by eating up the threads that hold it together.It will kil sealife. It is caustic. If you doubt that, stick your hand in a bucket of pure bleach and see how long you can keep it there before it starts to burn your skin. Get it in your eyes and we'll call you One Eyed Willy. Just sayin
Use what makes you happy.
It stings for the same reason it does a great job of removing fish blood/guts/mold/etc. Its packaged in plastic, not a bottle made of pig skin for the same reason.
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The owners manual from my Cape Horn 24 said to clean the deck with comet. Always worked well.

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