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Old 01-10-2013, 06:05 PM
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Is it ok to fish for Snapper and average size grouper with the reel spooled with braid, swivel, weight and florocarbon leader? Or is a length of mono between the braid and leader required? Braid seems to come in a variety of colors but the diameter may be small enough the color doesn't matter if a florocarbon leader is used.
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Where are you fishing? Some places Mutton snapper and very picky and will only eat a bait presented on a small 4/0 hook and 40lb fluro leader 20ft long and other places they'll eat just about anything.

Depends on the snapper species. Red Snapper its not going to matter, they eat everything.

IMO bottom fishing is the only application for braid. We fish deep and in heavy current so braid is a must.
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you can use braid for bottom fishing.

It's advantages:
1. strength vs diameter
2. sensitivity/no stretch

Disadvantages:
1.Tends to knot up
2. No Stretch
3. Annoying to deal with and expensive

I am part of the fraternity who does not get along with braid however lots of folks on this forum like it. If you know what you are doing, its not a bad choice for certain applications. For me, the learning curve with clients is too big and I switched everything to mono/fluoro.
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[quote=sailfish18;5255277]Where are you fishing? Some places Mutton snapper and very picky and will only eat a bait presented on a small 4/0 hook and 40lb fluro leader 20ft long and other places they'll eat just about anything.

Depends on the snapper species. Red Snapper its not going to matter, they eat everything.

IMO bottom fishing is the only application for braid. We fish deep and in heavy current so braid is a must.[/
I fish the Florida panhandle gulf coast - Usual catches are Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper and some Grouper
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I like braid for the ability to use lighter jigs in heavy current and for the sensitivity it gives me bouncing a jig off the bottom. Even in deep water when tied directly to a jig I can tell what kind of bottom (hard or soft) the jig lands on when bouncing.
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We use braid for all our snapper, grouper, and AJ fishing. Braid to a fluorocarbon leader; for a short leader, a wind-on swivel works fine, while a Red Phillips knot works well for longer leaders.
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I've always used braid reef/wreck fishing for snapper and have caught many grouper with it. Altough I have mono on my grouper rigs but thats just because I had a lot of it laying around. Its really nice because it doesnt fray on the rocks.
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I like braid for the ability to use lighter jigs in heavy current and for the sensitivity it gives me bouncing a jig off the bottom. Even in deep water when tied directly to a jig I can tell what kind of bottom (hard or soft) the jig lands on when bouncing.
This is why I use it as well. I can get down in the rips with a jig that weighs a little less due to the smaller diameter, and I think the lack of stretch is a plus. On my casting rigs for shallower water, even for bucktails, I like mono.

FWIW, I tie my jigs right to the braid, but most guys around here use a leader.
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I know little of offshore bottom stuff but like braid inshore for feeling the sensitive flounder and sheepshead bites, and you don't have to replace it so often like mono.
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What type of rig are you using? If you are putting a egg sinker on your main line(braid) the line has a tendency to tangle and twist around the swivel. We use a 20ft top shot of mono and this eliminates the problem. For a while I was using Power Pro and attaching the mono with a Albright knot, worked pretty good! However, have since switched to hollow core and love the knotless connection. With the top shot you get the best of both worlds, mono stretch and smaller diameter braid has less resistance for fishing deep. Don't be afraid to go heavy on your braid either, since it has no stretch the smaller stuff can and will break when a nice grouper decides to go back to his rocky lair. I would suggest at least 65#, and make sure you set your drag tight but not hammered down. If a fish is pulling drag put your thumb on the spool, you only need to get him ten feet off the bottom and the battle is pretty much over..... I have seen soooo many people trying to horse fish up and pull the hooks while using braid.
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You WILL catch more fish with braid, it is more expensive but it lasts alot longer.....fluoro leader for sure.....
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I use 80lb braid on a knocker rig to catch grouper in The Gulf. I have tried it with and without a fluorocarbon leader and they don't seem to notice the difference.
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I use braid a lot just be sure your knots are well tied as braid will slip with a poorly tied knot.
flourocarbon leaders are good as they put a little stretch in the system.
I don't tie directly to jigs with braid as I have had problems with staying connected as sometimes the knot would slip or the braid cut through the jig.
Heavy braid is what plumbers use to cut pipes.
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Depends on the snapper species. Red Snapper its not going to matter, they eat everything.

IMO bottom fishing is the only application for braid. We fish deep and in heavy current so braid is a must.
I fish the Florida panhandle gulf coast - Usual catches are Red Snapper, Mangrove Snapper and some Grouper
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I use 50-65 pound braid with 60 - 90 pound Fluro leaders. I use a spiderhitch to double the braid then a uni - uni knot. I stop using swivels a long time ago. I only use 2-3 foot long leaders in most cases.
caught that 2 weeks ago on a 10 inch hogy jig
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