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Old 09-14-2012, 08:56 AM
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Arrow Boat Restoration - Mako vs Aquasport

I want to start a new project boat. I want to restore a an older hull. I looking at either a Aquasport 222 (late 60's early 70's) or 21 Mako (1978-83) or maybe even a SeaCraft Potter Hull (If I can find one for a reasonable price)

I wanted some insight. I live in Miami and I am looking for a good all-around boat. I am leaning towards the Aquasport for fuel efficiency, seeing how you need 150 horses.


But I still want to hear everyones opinions and advice.

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Any thoughts or suggestions. Looking for a well riding bayboat, that can be taken offshore on the right day. Ideally I don't want to power the boat with more than an 150, so that greatly limits the size of the boat. A little scared of the 222 aquasports, and everyone's wet comments. Has anyone every been on a 222 with spray rails? Anywho, now I am leaning towards a older 19 mako, anyone have experience with the ride of these boats.
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If I remember correctly, the 222 has a very low dead rise, no? The 19 mako is not as bad, but is still on the smaller side. A 20' seacraft would be the best riding and still get pretty good mpg as long as the outboard doesn't have carbs. There are plenty of boats out there, don't rush it.
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I'm just finishing a restoration on a 1976 Aquasport 22-2. It's a great boat for bay and offshore. In 1973 Aquasport changed the hull design of the 22-2 from a "flatback" with no dead rise at the stern at all, to a 12 degree hull. There are lots of advocates for each hull design, I prefer my 12 degree myself. It will run in about 10 inches of water with a Porta bracket or jack plate, and it will handle a chop quite easily. The boat runs well with a 150 hp engine, although I put a 175 Zuke on mine. The tear down and rebuild have been quite fun.

Read all about it at www.classicaquasport.com. My rebuild thread is titled "1976 22-2, Begining the rebuild." Classicaquasport.com is the best rebuild forum around in my opinion. Lots of good folks with helpful advice and dozens of boats in various stages of rebuild. Classicmako.com is a good resource as well.
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Below is a comment on spray rails from Capt. Matt on classicaquasport.com



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I was set on putting spray rails on my flatback during the rebuild after everything I had read and am happy I did not. I figured I would run the boat first and then decide. The hull is crazy dry without them and spray rails make for more hull slap when anchored and fishing shallow water.. When I'm running the boat in a heavy chop (Like the last few days 20mph + NE wind right on the beam) no spray comes off the hull until a foot or so behind the console. The trim tabs really help too
After running this boat for almost two months now it still amazes me every time out in rough conditions how dry this hull is.
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My rebuild thread is titled "1976 22-2, Begining the rebuild."
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Well, I'm kinda prejudiced towards the 22-2. Love Classic Makos and SeaCrafts, just sayin...
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Mako without question but I'm partial.
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Thanks for the input guys. Love all (3) boats, I think I just going to find the best deal and let that dictate. As much as I would love to do the restoration myself, I just have no time, it would take me 5 yrs. Anyone know of a fiberglass/restoration shop in the South Florida area (Miami, Keys, Ft Lauderdale, West Palm ). Whichever route I take I want to enclose the transom and replace the stringers and deck. Anyone have a ballpark idea of how much one of these restoration run? I know every case is different and it all depends on condition.
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Anyone have a ballpark idea of how much one of these restoration run?
Come up with a number in your head, then multiply by 5. In all seriousness, doing a full blown restore on a sub 25 foot boat, materials only about 5-8K. Not counting time/labor
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Here's my two cents worth on the proposed re-build... If it were me I'd want to re-build restore the hull that would then have the greatest re-sale value. That would be an old Potter built SeaCraft, hands down. There are actually quite a few still around and many in poor condition, the one problem you'll have to decide is that they never made anything in the 21 to 22' range - the 20 was actually 19'6" and the next size is the old 23... He also built an 18 which came in at 18'10" - that was the size I completely restored in the early eighties - wish I still had that hull.
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If I remember correctly, the 222 has a very low dead rise, no? The 19 mako is not as bad, but is still on the smaller side. A 20' seacraft would be the best riding and still get pretty good mpg as long as the outboard doesn't have carbs. There are plenty of boats out there, don't rush it.
I wouldn't worry about carbs on a boat that size. Boat's that size are fairly cheap to run, a older good running outboard with carbs on a boat that size can be a good.
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Restoration is all about the process. Frankly, it only makes financial sense if you do most of the work yourself. Even then, it is more a labor of love than any kind of a bargain. If you want a semi custom boat built just for your tastes there are a lot of good options out there that make much better economic sense than restoring an antique. Check out Will Leslie's Aeon 23's. For around $50K you can have a brand new Aqua/Mako lookalike, way better built and equipped than an original.
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