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Old 06-05-2012, 06:18 AM
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I considering buying the 2012 Honda BF250 to replace my 2004 Yamaha F225 (died do to internal block corrosion). Has anyone heard anything about this new Honda motor? Any thoughts? Thanks guys!
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Just saying.................My friend who is a comm fisherman has 9,000 hrs on his with NO major breakdowns.It has NEVER left him stranded where he couldn't get in. I cant remember what year it is tho. So........just wanted to throw that out there.
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I saw Everglades testing two of them on one of their boats....I spoke with the guy at the dock and he was very impressed with them. They are so new I don't think anyone has had a chance to really run them long enough to give u any feedback.


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I considering buying the 2012 Honda BF250 to replace my 2004 Yamaha F225 (died do to internal block corrosion). Has anyone heard anything about this new Honda motor? Any thoughts? Thanks guys!
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Just saying.................My friend who is a comm fisherman has 9,000 hrs on his with NO major breakdowns.It has NEVER left him stranded where he couldn't get in. I cant remember what year it is tho. So........just wanted to throw that out there.
The 250 is new. You must mean a 225.
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The 250 is new. You must mean a 225.
Yes it was the 225. sorry
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I've had several Hondas in the past and they were the most reliable engines that I ever owned. Heavy, not particularly fast for their hp, but very fuel efficient and smooth running.

The 250 hp is a new model, but you can bet that Honda did a ton of real world testing before allowing it into the North American market.

If I had a choice when I bought it, I'd have a Honda on my Grady over the Yamaha.
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The new Honda 250 is 600lbs, just a few pounds lighter than a F250 Yamaha.

Across the board Hondas are very close in weight to their 4-stroke competitors.
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The new Honda 250 is 600lbs, just a few pounds lighter than a F250 Yamaha.

Across the board Hondas are very close in weight to their 4-stroke competitors.
It's actually about 40-50 lbs. heavier than a F250.
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Yamaha Motor F250 (Outboard) Specifications Fuel Type Gasoline
Horsepower 250-hp
Warranty 3 Years
Type of Engine 4-Stroke
Number of Cylinders 6 Cylinders
Configuration V-drive

Weight (lbs/kg) 604.00 lbs / 273.97 kg

Fuel Delivery Fuel Injected
Displacement (cu/cc) 204.60 cu / 3,352.79 cc
Shaft Length Options 25 in / 30 in
Steering Control Power Assist
CARB Rating 3-Star
Recommended Fuel 87 Octane Minimum
Alternator Output 46 A


Engine Honda BF250
Type 4-Stroke, SOHC, 60˚ V6, 24 Valve
Displacement 3583cc (219 cubic ins.)
Bore & Stroke 89 X 96 mm
Full Throttle RPM Range 5300 - 6300 RPM
Rated Power 250 HP @ 5800 RPM
Cooling System Water Cooled
Fuel Delivery Programmed Fuel Injection
Ignition System MicroComputer Programmed
Starting System Electric
Exhaust Through Hub
Lubrication Wet Sump
Trim Range -4° to +16°
Tilt Range 72°
Drive
Gear Ratio 2.00:1 (24/12)
Gear Shift F-N-R
Equipment
Alternator (Electric Start) 90-Amp (1118 watt)
Battery Charging Power 60 Amps (756 watts)
Propeller Optional
Power Tilt NA
Power Trim & Tilt Standard
Gas Assisted Tilt NA
Oil Pressure Alert Standard
Temperature Alert Standard
Rev-Limiter Standard
Speedometer Pickup Standard
Dimensions
Overall Width 625 mm/24.6 inches

Dry Weight
L-Type 272 kg - 600 lbs.

X-Type 278 kg - 613 lbs
XX-Type 282 kg - 622 lbs.

Transom Height
L Type 508mm/20 in.
X Type 635mm/25 in.
XX Type 762mm/30 in.
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The new Honda 250 is 600lbs, just a few pounds lighter than a F250 Yamaha.

Across the board Hondas are very close in weight to their 4-stroke competitors.
YES, You are correct sir.
Every single time time Honda is brought up in comparing to other motors someone chimes in that they are "heavy." Listen up everyone:

LARGE HP HONDAS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME WEIGHT AS ANY OTHER 4 STROKE OF THE SAME HP (and way lighter than a verado of same hp I might add)

End of rant, sorry but am really tired of seeing this same old BS
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It's actually about 40-50 lbs. heavier than a F250.

It's not. See the specs on Honda's site.
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It's not. See the specs on Honda's site.
I copied and pasted the specs from Hondas site above^^^^^^^^^^


http://marine.honda.com/products/modeldetail/BF250 then look under specs tab
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Maybe you should hold off on buying a Honda till the fall..............


http://www.boats.com/blog/2012/02/mi...g-and-premier/

http://www.hondainamerica.com/news/h...hrottle-system
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I copied and pasted the specs from Hondas site above^^^^^^^^^^


http://marine.honda.com/products/modeldetail/BF250 then look under specs tab
I think you are those are the numbers for the OLD yamaha F250. The new Yam F250 offshore weighs 562lbs / 255kgs (the old model weighs 600lbs / 275kgs)
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I think you are those are the numbers for the OLD yamaha F250. The new Yam F250 offshore weighs 562lbs / 255kgs (the old model weighs 600lbs / 275kgs)
Not sure about that....this is from the Yamaha site http://www.yamahaoutboards.com/outbo...ns#section-nav

F250 Specifications
Engine Type 60° V6 DOHC 24-Valve
Displacement 204.6 ci (3352 cc)
Bore x Stroke 94 x 80.5mm (3.70 x 3.17 in)
Prop Shaft Horsepower 250hp at 5500 rpm
Compression Ratio 9.9:1
Fuel/Induction System EFI/VCT/DOHC
Exhaust Through Propeller
Intake Single Throttle Valve
Ignition System TCI Micro Computer
Spark Plug LFR6A-11-00-000
Alternator Output 44 Amp (Battery charge: 27 Amp)
Starting System T = Electric w/ PTT
Lubrication Wet Sump
Engine Oil Capacity 4.7L/4.5L w/without filter
Full Throttle RPM Range 5000 - 6000
Cooling Water/Thermostatic Control
Recommended Engine Oil Yamalube® 4M (See owner's manual)
Recommended Fuel Regular Unleaded (Minimum Pump Octane 89)
Recommended Fuel Filtration Yamaha 10-Micron Fuel/Water Separating Filter (external)
Ethanol Blend Limit 10% Maximum
Gear Ratio (30:15) 2.00:1
Gear Shift Forward, Neutral, Reverse
Shaft Length X = 25"
Degree of Tilt TBD
Degree of Trim -3° through +16°
C.A.R.B. Rating 3-Star

Dry Weight 276 kg (608 lb)

Mounting Centers 28.6"
Steering Angle (maximum) 32° from center, either direction
Warranty 3-year Pleasure, 3-year Government, 1-year Commercial
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I recently bought one and for the whole 12 hours I put on it I love the beast.
Fuel consumption is way lower then my old Mercury or even my Yamaha.
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I want one given the good service I have had on my BF225!
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How many hours did the 2004 Yam have on it...I would be wanting to know why before I jumped in with something new.
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Yamaha Motor F250 (Outboard) Specifications Fuel Type Gasoline
Horsepower 250-hp
Warranty 3 Years
Type of Engine 4-Stroke
Number of Cylinders 6 Cylinders
Configuration V-drive

Weight (lbs/kg) 604.00 lbs / 273.97 kg

Fuel Delivery Fuel Injected
Displacement (cu/cc) 204.60 cu / 3,352.79 cc
Shaft Length Options 25 in / 30 in
Steering Control Power Assist
CARB Rating 3-Star
Recommended Fuel 87 Octane Minimum
Alternator Output 46 A


Engine Honda BF250
Type 4-Stroke, SOHC, 60˚ V6, 24 Valve
Displacement 3583cc (219 cubic ins.)
Bore & Stroke 89 X 96 mm
Full Throttle RPM Range 5300 - 6300 RPM
Rated Power 250 HP @ 5800 RPM
Cooling System Water Cooled
Fuel Delivery Programmed Fuel Injection
Ignition System MicroComputer Programmed
Starting System Electric
Exhaust Through Hub
Lubrication Wet Sump
Trim Range -4° to +16°
Tilt Range 72°
Drive
Gear Ratio 2.00:1 (24/12)
Gear Shift F-N-R
Equipment
Alternator (Electric Start) 90-Amp (1118 watt)
Battery Charging Power 60 Amps (756 watts)
Propeller Optional
Power Tilt NA
Power Trim & Tilt Standard
Gas Assisted Tilt NA
Oil Pressure Alert Standard
Temperature Alert Standard
Rev-Limiter Standard
Speedometer Pickup Standard
Dimensions
Overall Width 625 mm/24.6 inches

Dry Weight
L-Type 272 kg - 600 lbs.

X-Type 278 kg - 613 lbs
XX-Type 282 kg - 622 lbs.

Transom Height
L Type 508mm/20 in.
X Type 635mm/25 in.
XX Type 762mm/30 in.

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I think you are those are the numbers for the OLD yamaha F250. The new Yam F250 offshore weighs 562lbs / 255kgs (the old model weighs 600lbs / 275kgs)
Yes. I wasn't talking about the old 3.3L. The new F250 (and F300 for that matter) are 38 lbs. less than the Honda (not 40-50 like I originally said......).

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YES, You are correct sir.
Every single time time Honda is brought up in comparing to other motors someone chimes in that they are "heavy." Listen up everyone:

LARGE HP HONDAS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME WEIGHT AS ANY OTHER 4 STROKE OF THE SAME HP (and way lighter than a verado of same hp I might add)

End of rant, sorry but am really tired of seeing this same old BS
For an engine built for 250 hp, the Honda is relatively competitive. However, Verado is built for 300 hp at only 35 lbs. heavier than the Honda (and 350 hp without much more of a penalty) and Yamaha's F300 is still 38 lbs. lighter than the Honda.

FYI, I'm not saying the new Honda isn't a good engine, but I'm not sure what BS we injected into this thread. I started by correcting with the fact that Yamaha's (new) F250 is lighter than the Honda (which is it) and was told I was wrong.
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If you wanted to look at it:

http://www.yamahaoutboards.com/outbo...specifications
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