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Old 05-22-2012, 03:14 PM
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Has anyone used this feature on the tiller handle models? I'm looking at a new 40 tiller but the dealer is 3 hours away. Let me know how you like it.
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:28 PM
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How is it supposed to work? What kills me is that Yamaha is now calling it nitro assist but if you read any of their literature or go online, nowhere does any of it explain at all how it works or what the benefit of it is. Very poor marketing.

I've got a new Yamaha 40 4 stroke tiller that has a manual tilt that you can adjust manually but it looks like a power tilt unit on it and it is a fluid filled trim cylinder so I guess mine it Nitro assist as the 2012 looks just like my 2010 so I don't think it is anything different from mine. You set it wherever you'd like and it will stay in that position until you get to planing speed and then it will automatically tilt down to wherever you have your running level set. If this is what you are talking about I will tell you that both my dealer and Yamaha were scratching their heads when I asked them how it worked and whether it was supposed to automatically trim down to the preset running position when you got the planing speeds. I got different answers from everyone, including Yamaha's customer service unit who had to go ask several people and then you could tell they did not have a clue what they were talking about. I guess this was because this system was brand new for the model year and they failed to educate their tech employees as well as their dealers about how it worked.

I've not had any issues with mine and I like it ok. It is not as good as power trim and tilt but then it's a lot cheaper.
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Tailwalker, that's what I'm talking about. The saleman said it's great but then I asked him if I could trim the motor a little while underway and he said no. The owner of the dealership said I could put the motor in any position I wanted. I would rather go with Mercury with T&T but that's not what I can get with the boat I want.
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Not only can you not trim the motor while on plane as I noted it will not stay in any position above the trim lockout pin setting once up on plane. My guess is because some nitwit would trim it up so high that they might reduce or eliminate any steering control and wreck their boat.

I can reach back and lift the motor up some while underway if going less than 10mph but it's not ideal. It's better than the typical mechanical tilt on any other motors but if you want the ability to trim at will go with power trim/tilt.

Otherwise the motor is great. Tons of power for a small 4 stroke and a lot of torque. It is not a slug like some of their 4 strokes. I have it on an all welded, very heavy War Eagle 16' Jon Boat.
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Thanks for your help. I went with the 50 Mercury 4 stroke with tilt and trim in the handle. What kind of top end speed are you getting? My boat is very similar. Thanks!
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Loaded and with my two sons it will run right around 36-38mph. Just me and a light load and it will run low 40's. This was not the motor I was going to buy but Atlantic Marine down your way had the boat and the motor was already on it and they did not want the motor as they said they had a hard time selling the smaller stuff so they gave it away for 3k. I could not refuse that deal. They blew the boat and motor out at cost.

How do you like the Mercury?
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That's movin out! I just ordered the 50 hp today with a 1754 tracker grizzly open boat all welded with floor. I hope it will have some get up and go like yours. It's hard to beat real life experiece opposed to dealer BS. Thanks!
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Your boat is a bit bigger with a 54" bottom. Mine has a 48" bottom which is why the war eagles usually run a little faster as more wetted surface on the wider jons usually slows them down a bit. However, with the extra 10hp I would think you would still be close, unless you have console and a bunch of other things to weigh it down. Mine is a tiller and only has front and rear casting decks and that's it, although the boat is pretty heavy.

Hope you enjoy it!
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