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Old 02-28-2005, 08:53 PM
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Default Johnson 200 hp carb- " bullet proof" or not ?


The late 90's Johnson 2 stroke 200/225hp has a reputation as being a reliable work horse.

I've heard that in the late 90's, OMC started using plastic gears in the lower unit to save cost.
Anyone know anything about this, and the reputation of these engines.

I'm thinking about buying a rebuilt.
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Old 02-28-2005, 10:19 PM
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bgreene, can only speak to my '93 Johnson Ocean runner. It's got 800 hrs. on it. I've had a couple of things go wrong. 1- The magnets inside the flywheel have come unglued and shifted or fell off. First time it overheated and we almost had a fire. Some wiring was melted. Got it fixed and about two years later it did it again. The service tech said the last folks who worked on it may not have prepped the metal surface properly and the adhesive failed. 2- The two bolts that attach the powerhead to the frame sheared. That was an expensive repair. Had to pull the powerhead to get to them to replace. The nuts had rattled lose over time and fell off. This caused the shift rod to bend. Symptoms were excessive vibration of motor, and eventually could not shift into reverse due to the rod being bent. In hind sight I feel I should have caught this sooner due to vibration. Live and learn. We epoxied the nuts to lock them in place, and I can visually inspect them now. All of that being said, this motor has never failed to start, always run well. It cranks easily even after being laid up awhile. I've never adjusted the carbs, only de-carboned. I do run sea foam all the time. It's a smoker as you would suspect, but not bad after she warms up. I disconnected the oil inject and mix my own. I bought the boat with this motor on it, and will probably stick with it until I sell the boat. Like I said , she's always brought me home.
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Old 03-01-2005, 06:33 AM
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I have a 1991 225 HP with 300 plus hours, ( if my hour meter is correct bought the boat and motor used.) She is ugly, smokes and eats a lot of oil and gas but she has never failed me. These motors are real pigs but a real work horse. When I first got her a had to re glue my magnets and I replaced the stator and power pack. That was aroound 200 hours ago. These are not a 4 stroke guchie OB's but it keeps on ticking.

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Old 03-01-2005, 06:39 AM
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1997 200 Oceanrunner. about 600 hours and siezed a piston, with the rod coming out the side of the block (on April fools day ) Ran great before that. Strong motor. 4strokes from now on
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My 1999 2250 Hydrasport came with a 200 Johnson. Hard to start when cold, smoked pretty bad, had to replace the voltage reg. after two years and probably needed a new stator. Replaced with a 4S last year. That having been said, those are very reliable motors - it never left me stranded. There are things you can do to a carbed 2S that you simply can't do to a 4S that will get you home in a pinch, if necessary. I have a feeling a lot of those motors are hanging off the back of some guys boats with over 1000 hrs on them.

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1995 200 hp carbed Oceanrunner. Like previous posts - thirsty, smokey at first start and "bulletproof". 982 hours when I took it off to repower. BTW - it's listed in the buy/sell if interested. OBTW - plastic gears in a lower unit would last like a snowball in hell.

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Old 03-01-2005, 08:37 AM
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I have also heard bad stories about the Ocean Runner. Blew a piston within 3 years of owning it and also the gears in the lower unit had to be overhauld. These problems have something to do with the design of the motor. There are two bearings at the top and bottom that will flatten out over time and cause chaos in the motor. I believe the quick strike models are like that. I owned a Johnson for 15 years and it never stranded me. The word is to stay away from the quick strike motors made by omc.
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Old 03-01-2005, 10:50 AM
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i have a'97 150 evinrude. after 10 hours had 2 dead cylinders so th epowerhead was replaced, after 20 hours the carbs needed a rebuild as gas would pour out of them when the motor was tilted up. I have 300 hours on it since then and no more problems. It smokes upon startup, vibrates like crazy and gets horrible mpg's. This motor was a lemon since day 1, and working with the dealer was a nightmare.
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Old 03-01-2005, 02:31 PM
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I have a 2000-200, the last of the OMCs, and the first summer the power pack went out. Covered by Bomb under warranty.* I now have 450+ hours on it, and have had no other issues.* I've been told I replace my plugs more than necessary (annually), but it's easy and cheap.

I use Bomb Carbon Guard when I think of it, and didn't do well with cheap oil.* All the other adjectives apply:* thirsty, noisy, smoky and utterly reliable.
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Old 03-01-2005, 02:49 PM
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1996 225 Oceanrunner with about 700 hours on the meter. I had some significant problems within the first year/125 hours of use. The motor self destructed after a faulty ECU made it misfire and burn up a piston. They replaced the powerhead, but not the ECU so it ate up another piston. I had a lower unit seal fail twice, the second time necessitating replacing the gearset, which by the way are most definitely made of metal. Since then, the only real problem I have had is a rusted out trim pump. It was replaced with a new composite bodied one several years ago and has worked well since. I realize these motors have a reputation for poor fuel economy, but I have been very happy with mine. I typically burn 6 to 7 gph over the course of a tank of fuel, and I run it pretty hard. I think that if you have found a motor that old that is running well and has had the usual maintenance done, you should expect good service out of it.
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Twin 1991 Johnson 200's, 700 hrs.........
They smoke alot at start up , but arent so bad after warm-up. They burn a fair amount of gas/oil. I too, have had to replace the stators,VRO's, and reglue the magnets.Thats about it other than the usual , like waterpumps, wires, etc...

That said, the engines have NEVER broken down while using the boat , and have always run consistently and without any failures to speak of. Compression is still very strong on all cylinders. I run De-Carb through twice a season and Ring-Free through during every fill up.

Bullet-Proof ?? Naw, but darn near close to it!!!
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One other thing. On a rebuild I would get a compression test , and maybe have another mechanic look at it, at the very least. A second opinion could save you alot of money.
Does this rebuild come with any warrantees???????
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Old 03-01-2005, 03:09 PM
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Default RE: Johnson 200 hp carb- " bullet proof" or not ?


What's the quick strike engine, and how does one know which model was a quick strike when buying a used / rebuilt ?


Given the attached replies regarding these Johnson late 90's 200 carb'd engines - it sounds like the
engines are not necessarily so " bullet proof ".



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I still have the 1998 200 hp hanging in my shop that is listed in the Trading Dock. The deal is still pending {I know the guy buying it . He just has not paid for it or picked it up yet}. I ran this motor a lot last year and had no problems at all. As one guy put it to me it reminds me of me,likes to smoke,likes to drink,but runs real hard. If I did not want to go with the max HP on my boat and want the extra fuel economy of FI I would never have taken it off.
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Monstawhala: I'm considering buying a rebuilt from the Custom Machine Shop, Inc of Homestead, Florida. They have a web site, indicates 35 years experience, and 5 YEAR WARRANTY on their rebuilds !!

The question ultimately becomes varifying that total rebuild job, related performance output,( compression etc) and which "brand" engine to go with .

I'm set on getting a 200 hp, but won't go the expense of a new - Yami 200 hpdi or other $ 12,000
engine.

So, the challenge is to find the best rebuilder, and make / model engine.

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