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Old 05-08-2012, 02:04 PM
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Anyone able to tell me the fuel burn at idle in gear (700-750 rpm) on the new 150?
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I haven't ran one yet, but I guesstimate 0.4-0.7 gph in gear at idle.

yesterday I spoke with a Bennington pontoon dealer who is very impressed with them. He no longer orders his pontoons with 150 Yamaha's.
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I am not a fan of the Enertias, not enough bite so when you want to trim out and get some bow lift, they just blow out and leave you with nothing. Try a set of 15 Mirages if you can, that might be the way to go...
Thanks for the tip, not sure what model has been ordered and it may take a few more trys. so far the best part is the power on comand, kind of like the old GM big blocks when you goose em and you sink back in the seat.

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I haven't ran one yet, but I guesstimate 0.4-0.7 gph in gear at idle.

I haven't run one yet, but yesterday I spoke with a Bennington pontoon dealer who is very impressed with them. He no longer orders his pontoons with 150 Yamaha's.
Thanks PB, hopefully one of the guys will post-up #s when they get out on them.
Would be nice to see it close to the new DI 2 stroke idle #s
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I rigged a pair on a 27' Ameracat, they run well, no better or worse than a f150 Yamaha, however they are a lot cheaper. Something like five grand cheaper for the pair, and it is the only American motor left. I like them, I have 3 pair on order that I should start getting them in this month. I also have a 23' seacraft that we are repowering with a Armstrong bracket. Should be interesting.
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I rigged a pair on a 27' Ameracat, they run well, no better or worse than a f150 Yamaha, however they are a lot cheaper. Something like five grand cheaper for the pair, and it is the only American motor left. I like them, I have 3 pair on order that I should start getting them in this month. I also have a 23' seacraft that we are repowering with a Armstrong bracket. Should be interesting.
I would be very interested in that project, I have a close frien that is considering restoring an older 23 and a pair of the new 150s are high on the list, post it up when you get started on it, look forward to the numbers!
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Ran one a couple of times at the Miami Show on a 21 Ranger Bay Boat. For a 150hp engine it did very well. Smooth and quite. Excellent engine. I just wish they had already bumped it to 175 or 200 in time for my engine buy this year.
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Are they going to offer the 4-stroke in a 175 and 200 HP? I mean other than the Verado?
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I am not a fan of the Enertias, not enough bite so when you want to trim out and get some bow lift, they just blow out and leave you with nothing. Try a set of 15 Mirages if you can, that might be the way to go...
Put a Mirage 15 pitch on yesterday but have not been able to get out. Hope to get out this weekend if the weather holds out.

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Passman, Can you post or email me some pictures of the motor mounted on the Caracal? I appreciate you being the test subject for me.
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Put a Mirage 15 pitch on yesterday but have not been able to get out. Hope to get out this weekend if the weather holds out.

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We always got more bite with four blades, equal to one pin hole higher. I have 3 Blade 25" Suzuki props on my 22' cat and also run 26" four blade Hydromotive one pin up. The Zuk props have more effective pitch than what's stamped on the hub.

Jassmans new catamaran has the new 150 mercs and has a higher gear ratio than the Suzuki's. I wish Reggie was still at Fountain, as they have one of everything to try and he was always very generous to help out the little guys in town.

We are going to try 22" Bravo 4's first.
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Are they going to offer the 4-stroke in a 175 and 200 HP? I mean other than the Verado?
The displacement is there at 3liters to get 200hp out of the block with easy. That does cut into the Verado lines horsepower ranges....but Mercury was smart in that the new four stroke does not run the fancy digital controls and does not have the higher end refinement of the Verado. So perhaps both engines could survive each serving their on niche so to speak.

The Mercury engineers I have spoken to all have towed the company line and have said that there is no plans to increase the HP from the 3 liter block....but a couple that I know better did admit it was easily done and the block could run very well for a long useful life at a 50hp increase. When it happens I do not know. Will it happen.....I think there is about an 80% chance it will within 3-4 years.
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A lightweight 200 HP is sorely needed in the industry and would be a big hit - IMHO
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A lightweight 200 HP is sorely needed in the industry and would be a big hit - IMHO
It will. Merc is impressed with the back order that has stacked up on the 150 since October. They will be running 24/7 for a couple of years if they put 200 on the back of that cowling!
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I should stop by Marine Max and see if BW has replaced the 150 Verado on the Outrage 19 with this motor. Then we might know one reason for the backorder. ;-) This engine makes a lot of sense for Mercury as opposed to a supercharged 150. IMO, a 175 version and a 200 would make more sense, just like a 200 hp version Suzuki 4 would. Yamaha can't be too far behind with a new 4 cylinder motor derived from the 4.2 liter V6 and they and suzuki have already shown that you can get 65 hp plus per liter with no problem.
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Passman, Can you post or email me some pictures of the motor mounted on the Caracal? I appreciate you being the test subject for me.
Not the best light but they work.
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That is nice looking 150 !! I
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I was thinking about this engine last night. A 3 liter 150 4 cylinder would translate to a 4.5 liter 225 V6. That is a milder sate of tune than either the Suzuki or the newer 4.2 liter Yamaha. Bump the 4 up to 175 and 200, you have your 250 and 300 in the V6 more or less and a much simpler engine than the Verado and certainly not any heavier AND at 4.5 liters, one the is still in theory less stressed than the big Yamaha.. Kinda makes you wonder what direction Mercury is looking to go? The only advantage that I have ever heard a boat builder talk about with the Verados was the fact that they were narrower than the new big block Yamaha. We were at the Miami Boat Show last year and the guy from Bahama said that they couldn't really fit 4 Yamahas on the back of the 37 easily, so it someone wanted quads on it or the 41, they got Verados.
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