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Old 04-13-2012, 04:23 AM
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I'm currently boatless and have found a couple Pachanga 22's for sale that I'm interested in. One is a 1987 with a 454 and an Alpha. The other is a 1990 with a 454 and a Bravo. Both are about the same price.

I thought it was a good fit for fresh/saltwater use. Family cruise with option to go fast when not with child. Cuddy, porti potty, good seating, etc...


What are your thoughts on the Pachanga? Good bad & ugly.....



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The Alpha and the 454 Combo is a ticking time bomb. The Bravo drive was built to be paired with the bigger motors because they where ripping the guts out of the Alpha drives. The Panchanga was a decent little boat for what it was. With a 454, it will scoot pretty good.
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Yea nandrly Bravos ate their own own lower units.
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Can't see why you would want to go I/0 at all when you have 4 cycle outboards.
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It's your traditional cuddy boat/IO boat. I agree with the other post stay away from the Alpha big block combo, not a good match.
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I think I'm sticking to bravo only drives but I'm toying with the idea of putting a new 454 or 502 in it for reliability and power. What should I expect to pay for this? Simple swap or do I need to replace a lot of stuff?

Also, how do I check the condition of the gas tank?
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Stay away from Sea Ray altogether - real POS, IMHO
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Wow, deweede. While Sea Ray is not my first choice (I worked for Viking). I did deliver a late model 42 to Charleston, SC last year and it is not a POS at all. I have worked on all models over the year and the overall glass work is good, the wiring is good and the layout is nice. They are cruising boats that mot of the time don't leave the dock too often and they are perfect for that. For the money (good in the ued market because they sold ton of them) they are a good buy. But, one stigma is the typical owner is a weekender and they tend to be a certain type of person.
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Sea Ray wouldn't be my first choice either. Can you find something more like a Cobalt, Nordic, Crownline, that would be of higher initial quality?

Change to a new 502 would be 8-9k for the motor alone, not even a merc version. A new Bravo X is probably that much as well.
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The pachanga hull with the bravo drive is your best choice. They were popular hulls in their time period and I recall always wanting one. Years later when I had the cash I bought a 1994 Baja with a 454 and bravo drive. The guy I sold that rig to is still using it on the james river in VA and the drive and engine only have had maintenance done nothing else.
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Wow, strong statement. I'm curious, why do you have this opinion?

Honestly, I don't give a crap who makes the boat as long as I'm getting what I am expecting. In this case it's a great family boat that can get up and go. I like the cobalt line but do not like the Cuddy series.
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Hi all,

I'm currently boatless and have found a couple Pachanga 22's for sale that I'm interested in. One is a 1987 with a 454 and an Alpha. The other is a 1990 with a 454 and a Bravo. Both are about the same price.

I thought it was a good fit for fresh/saltwater use. Family cruise with option to go fast when not with child. Cuddy, porti potty, good seating, etc...


What are your thoughts on the Pachanga? Good bad & ugly.....


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The 1st is an 88 with green accents powered by a 454 and an Alpha. The 2nd is a 1990 with blue accents powered by a 454 and a Bravo. Both are the same price, and I'm leaning towards #2 with the Bravo.
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My dad bought an 88 sea ray. Great boat, wired good, fished hard for years and it was solid. Buy the one with the best motor/drive and enjoy it. Always of course get the boat, motor and drive examined by a professional if you are not qualified to do so.
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Go without the green accents. It will be harder to keep looking good as the years go by. Dark gelcoat fades faster. The Bravo boat looks like a much better machine. Stick your head in the tough to reach spots and look for cracks in the fiberglass. Check out the transom from the inside.
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Can't see why you would want to go I/0 at all when you have 4 cycle outboards.

Outboards are ugly and take up too much usable space.
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go with the 1990 with the bravo drive and you don't have to change much to go to a 502. I did the same swap on a formula it had a 454 with a alfa drive now has 502 with the bravo drive. huge diffence in the boat. good luck
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All the hate.......
ugly>>>

The Pachanga is actually a very cool boat with an excellent hull design.
This is not your father in laws SeaRay.
I had a client with a 28 years ago running twin 500 Flagship Marine Mercs on TRS drives and that bitch would flat out hunt!

Stay with the Bravo option, No,,,,, seriously,,, Bravo.
Not to pimp my angle but you are going to need two very good inspections. Start with a good hull surveyor and make sure no deal killers are found in the way of structural or fuel tank issues then get the best performance oriented Mercruiser service tech in three counties to do the engine and drive.
Be safe and have fun.
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Please do not take any advice from this guy!!! I have owned a pachanga and it was made very well for a production boat. If u had seen half the things I have done in it u might be surprised how well it held up. If you are looking for speed the boat isn't a good performance boat but a great sport boat for the money.
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Theses were hot boats in its day. The 454 with the bravo 1 is the way to go. They are almost bulletproof.
If the price is right go for it.

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