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Old 02-21-2005, 01:11 PM
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I am looking to replace my phoenix 33 - 1988, repowered 3 years ago with C370TBA & 8K Onan. Was at Miamib boat show and overwhelmed in 3 days. The Topaz and henriques lokk as best buys in rugged offshore under 35 feet. Any comments, experience or ideas?
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Hi Frederich, I've got a 2004*Topaz 32. With its 25150lbs dry weight it is the heaviest boat in her category (9 layers of multiaxial mats without such wood coring), great hardware and general quality and*fit*&*finish. great hull (70 at*bow and 18.5 at transom),*supersoft and dry (the boat comes without wipers..), since I have it I've never been*having such problems in rough seas. You've to test it on rough sea to prove the safety of this boat***

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I have a 2004 32 topaz with 450hp cats in her. She cruises at 32 with no problem at 2450rpm.Cat tells me she should be cruised at 2400-2600. at 2550 i am at 34 knots burning about 36 gallons an hour. Plus she has a great ride. when we do hit a larger wave she comes down as soft as a feather and is a great boat and is made for the offshore enviorment. the builders are top notch people and a joy to deal with. We have been is some preaty sloopy seas and still get home in comfort and never have ever doubted her abilties. She is a great setup for her size and her weight is a definit advantage. She weighs 25000 pounds plus when fully loaded for the canyons. Before I purchased my topaz I did alot of comparing between the 32 topaz, 35 and 38 henriques, 36 jersey cape, 38 outisland and the 31 and 35 cabos. Rode and looked at each one real close and after all was said and done we chose the topaz. IF you have any question email me at topaz32nj@hotmail.com.
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:33 PM
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The best boat I sea trialed at the show was the Out Island 38 express. It was hands down the best ride. The other boat in your size that rode very well was the Albemarle 32.
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:58 PM
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The outisland does have a great ride, But the fit and finish still have a long ways to go. The main problem I have found with them is a Major fuel leakage problem. Almost every boat has had it and it has been so bad on some that they have had to rip the deck off and replace the fuel tanks. I think they will be a great boat company as they work the bugs out of the building process.
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Old 02-21-2005, 06:19 PM
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You can throw the 32 Carolina classic into the mix also. It's in the same class as the topaz at 24-25000 lbs dry weight. I chose the CC because I did not loke the windshield height on the topaz and I liked the look a little better.

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From what I've heard that 35 Henriques is pretty good boat.

1) Make a list of what you are looking for in the vessel
2) How the boat will be used
3) Test ride em' on the same day
4) Crawl all over, under them and look in every nook and cranny
5) Visit the Manufacturing plants. Make a list and ask the same questions.
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Old 02-22-2005, 06:16 AM
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Henriques boats are very ruggedly built. Jack builds his boats like tanks. While I am a fan of the line I should tell you that the 35' hull is more of a semi-planing hull and when powered with high HP twins had the tendancy to keel rock a bit. They are quality boats however and have a strong local following. The 38' on the other hand rides nothing like the 35' as it is a completely different hull. I actually like the ride of the 38' better than that of the 44'.

With all of that said, some of the other boats mentioned may produce a better ride but as well as they are built, I think Henriques boats may best them out when you compare pound for pound, bolt for bolt, etcetera, even if they give up alittle bit in ride againnst some of the Carolina hull designs.
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We usually overnight at some 40 miles out in the Caribbean, so another consideration besides the sea worthiness of the boat is creature comforts for 4. This implies generator and a/a, water and fuel consumtion for those long summer nights, as well as the ability to cook something warm. We usually do white and blue marlin in summer and tuna in autum. Price/qulity consideration is also a factor. I visited Henriques in New jersey and was impressed but not their finishings which looked a bit rough: looked at Carolina but found the cabin a bit small and was not impressed with the finishing details and the hull construction. I found cabin size on the Albemarle is also a bit tight for her size. Any other considerations or recommendations? Thanks to all for your input.
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Old 02-22-2005, 08:45 AM
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FYI, Albemarle is in the process of adding a 36 to the lineup. You might also want to ask the dealer/factory about it.

I have been on the Henriq 35', and was very impressed. I have been out on it in a variety of conditions from calm to very rough (running,drifting, anchor, and trolling), and was very impressed. The boat has a great cockpit, rides very well, and I liked the helm and cabin layouts very much. If I was in the market for this type of boat, it would definitiely be on my short list.

I can't offer any meaningful comparison to the Topaz/boats mentioned, except for the Albe 32 that I was on at the AC show. I liked it alot....but whats not to like standing at a boatshow on a shiny $275K boat? Fit, finish, and layout were great.
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:02 PM
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On the Topaz boats all cabinets, panels, floors*and bulkeads are*fiberglassed*to the hullsides, deck and hull, so that all the sistem is like a single piece. High gloss gelcoat:*they're really finelooking gunwales, so brighten You've to*hold a pair of*glasses . Custom*B&D type (I think..)*rodholders with drain, etc... I usually go fishing at albacores with a friend who has*a Albe 310 Ex, it is a very good boat,*speedy and finelooking,*but in strong seas I can go at 2150/2200rpm for 25.5kn cruise, and he have to go at 2350/2400 and fully pulled down trim tabs, also it's wet and I can go well with pretty raised bow. This is a (), because we're speaking about the better sportfisherman in their category, so often the difference are purely given by personal preferences. THEY'RE ALL GREAT BOATS!

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Old 02-22-2005, 04:18 PM
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The 36 Albemarle won't be introduced until the 2006 Miami Boat Show.
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Jack doesn't build boats anymore. He retired. The new 35Hen does NOT have the older Maine Coater hull. The new 35Hen is more like the 38Hen. The only other thing I can say is when I step on a 35Hen's gunnel she rocks. When I set on my 35Bertram's gunnel she does not rock. I don't know which one has more V; but the newer 35Hens are much better sea boats the the older design.
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I knew CB would plug his 35 Bertram......
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Hey if you got it flaunt it.
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Jack Henriques was working at the plant, when my 38 was being built last year. He handled the constructional part, but his son in law took over the business end.
As far as the Henriques, Topaz debate. Both are good boats, with good reputations. It is going to come down to your choice and preferences. Test ride them both in bad seas. Henriques is a rugged offshore boat, Its built like a tank. It has everthing a hardcore fisherman will need. The cockpit is probably larger than the Topaz. The Henriques is longer, wider, heavier, holds more water, but less fuel. Henriques customer service is excelent. They go out of their way to satisfy customers. Once you buy a Henriques it is like you are part of the family.

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Old 02-23-2005, 09:36 PM
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actually the topaz weighs 4,000 pounds more dry then the henriques. plus I have a 65 gallon water tank in her, so that is the same. I do hold more fuel , but those yanmars sip fuel. she is a little wider than the topaz and does have a larger cockpit. It all does come down to personal prefrence on boats. I test rode both boats and they are both well built and handle the seas great. They are very simlar in many ways and does some down to the buyer.
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Old 02-24-2005, 02:21 AM
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Consider that the Topaz is a*32'8" hull, the Henriques is 35'4", and 8" larger. So the Topaz has a specific weight much higher*than the Henriques. Also the Topaz hull comes with a*70 bow and 18.5 transom, differently by jersey hulls those have relatively flat deadrises. In theory a wider angle hull goes great on long waves but becomes strong on high and short waves, because it cannot cut so well as a very deep hull. These are theorical thoughts because I never tested a Henriques. I can only notice that on rough short and high seas like the Adriatic is, the Topaz*makes a great work, also it planes yet at 9.8 knots, so You can ride*virtually in all sea conditions.

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I am getting my stats right off both sites.
Topaz: Weight- 20,500 pounds, LOA- 32'8", Water- 40 gallons, Beam 12'2".
Henriques: Weight- 21,000 pounds, Water-65 gallons, Beam-13' LOA- 38'3"
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Old 02-24-2005, 07:10 AM
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Ok You'll notice that the Henr. is about 6 feet longer: so compare the weights... Consider also this other data: FUEL: Topaz=400gal; Henr.=360gal.ben
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