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Old 03-13-2012, 04:57 AM
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Just give a camera to one of your buddies on another boat, and have him shoot you. You can get hundreds of pics. $500 just for an aerial shot! You guys must have money to piss away.
I totally agree. I did order the print because I wanted to see the quality...it was good. But I did not intend to order any. Problem became my wife also saw the print and it was over...baby...we have to have that print. Sort of like those over priced prints on cruise ships and they put the prints all over the key places on the boat. We have a decent camera and took many good pics during the cruise but once the wife saw the prints..ooooh we have to have that print.
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I am looking at a Boat Pix picture hanging on my wall right now. It is of a friends classic boat and he gave the print to me. He had to do the same thing about ordering and placing credit card as deposit. They sent him about 6 different shots and he ended up just keeping them all. If I remember, the first print was like $300 and all 6 was $600. He did not purchase any digital images.

For reference I am in the commercial roofing business and we often hire aerial photographers to shoot finished projects. It's been awhile but last time I used one in South Florida the whole dedicated trip to take 6 buildings in the area, furnish 8x 10 proofs, and we owned the digital images (prenegotiated) was about $1,800.00. They shot 8 to 10 pictures at each location.
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If you ask they will print smaller @ less $...but you have to ask.
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A scanner will work. You might get what is called a moiré pattern (pronounced more-ay) which will give you lines. Moiré patterns are caused by interference between two sets of fine pattern grids, the scanner samples and the halftone screen in the original image. Any scanner will do this, it's a simple fact of life. If you have some sort of photo retouching software you can use an image blur on the photo to smooth it out thus making it look more normal.

But I will say 500 bucks...for a digital COPY is so over priced.

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I hope your not a printer because your information is somewhat incorrect. IF they were to send him an offset printed photo around 150 LPI and he tried to scan it yes he would pick up a moire pattern. 10-1 they would send him a photo off an Epson or HP digital printer. 99.9% of digital printers use a Stochastic dot (random) a pattern would not be picked up. I deal with this stuff everyday, their are plenty of good filters to remove any patterns if needed

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Shoot me an PM if and when you get the photos. I'll scan them and give you a high res file back. I can also do some very large prints if you want
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Try Kinkos for the scanning, I have had some large design documents I did not have in electronic format scanned and put on a DVD there for a small fee.
X2 Take the print to Kinkos. Tell them you want it scanned at 300-600 dpi. You'll be able to print a poster sized pic sharp as a tack. Bring a large jump drive with you. What you do with your paid print from Boatpix is your business. If Boatpix brought their price down to an affordable consumer level, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Instead of buying the print and the digital file, why not just buy the digital file and have Kinkos or Staples make the print? I know there is a copyright thing, but to hang in your office, my concience could handle that.
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For $300-$500-$1000 I'm with others who have said hire your own helicopter. Or you could just get a friend with a decent DSLR and have him stand on a bridge as you run under it, stand on the top floor/roof of a balcony as you cruise along the beach, and then hop on a boat that's running next to you. If you pay him $300-500 you could have a whole SD card worth of awesome pictures of the boat from a variety of angles.

I know the BoatPix pictures are awesome, and I know they have to make money somehow, but $300+ for one picture seems absurd.
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If it was a high def 2 minute video from several angles, the $500 price would be justified. For example in Maui you can get two people up on a 30 minute tour, on a state of art eggbeater with a high def souvenier video for $500.

$500 will buy a lot of fuel.
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X2 Take the print to Kinkos. Tell them you want it scanned at 300-600 dpi. You'll be able to print a poster sized pic sharp as a tack. Bring a large jump drive with you. What you do with your paid print from Boatpix is your business. If Boatpix brought their price down to an affordable consumer level, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
If the print is copywritten, Kinkos, Staples, will not scan and make a print, it is against the law. The photographer can release the picture to you, but mostly it is for single use one time only. That is the way most of these artist/photographers work. I work with these guys every day. For those who are saying to just rent a helicopter and get a friend with a good camera, you will be better served hiring a true professional shooting the pics. I have been in helicopters shooting the ads for seavee, seahunter and jupiter. I served as the art director getting the pict that I wanted for the brochures, but it was up to the photographer to get the correct angles and photo specs. I have scanned proofs and used for fpo (for position only) but wouldn't use these in any other way besides that.
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I have a few that they took of us running and they are really great prints. Pricey but good. You can also take a picture of a picture, my wife does it all of the time. When she uses her Cannon SLR, the new picture is of similar high quality.
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Chris,

I would talk to the guy on this site Naple's Images he takes alot of arial pictures, and you may be able to meet up with him one day he is shooting something else. Just a thought...

Or buy the digital copy, and have your own picture printed!

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... The photographer can release the picture to you, but mostly it is for single use one time only. ...
It is not explicitly stated, but this answer on the BoatPix site infers that they transfer the copyright to you when you buy the digital print. I'm basing that on their permission to print with no limit to number of reprints and the likelihood of commercial use.

Question: How much more are the digital files ?
Answer: $500 for one file. $750 for two files and $1000 for all the files. If you don’t need the files, just buy a picture. If you want to make a brochure, shirts, advertisements, sell the boat or lots of pictures you’ll need the digital files. If you buy the files we’ll make you pictures at 50% off our retail so you can take advantage or our color knowledge. Please contact us directly for more information at: 561.798.9850.
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cmon...this is tht!...

lawyer up...tell them you are going to sue them for invasion of your privacy unless they turn all of the digital and printed material over to you...
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Or you could just get a friend with a decent DSLR and have him stand on a bridge as you run under it, stand on the top floor/roof of a balcony as you cruise along the beach,.
Didn't some captain get into a lot of trouble when he tried this with his cruise ship in Italy? Would havevbeen cheaper to pay the $500
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It is not explicitly stated, but this answer on the BoatPix site infers that they transfer the copyright to you when you buy the digital print. I'm basing that on their permission to print with no limit to number of reprints and the likelihood of commercial use.

Question: How much more are the digital files ?
Answer: $500 for one file. $750 for two files and $1000 for all the files. If you don’t need the files, just buy a picture. If you want to make a brochure, shirts, advertisements, sell the boat or lots of pictures you’ll need the digital files. If you buy the files we’ll make you pictures at 50% off our retail so you can take advantage or our color knowledge. Please contact us directly for more information at: 561.798.9850.
There you go. Buy the digital copy and make all the prints you want. Now comes the hard part. Without a preview how do you know which digital print should you get?
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I'm reading something about laws and safety here, is there something more I need to stuff into my ditch bag? A printer or something.
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Eventually they will catch up with the times. I was skiing a couple weeks ago and the mountain had photographers at the top, they'd happily snap a half dozen photos of you and your friends, put them up on their website in low res, offer a service to send them to facebook with one click, and if you wanted to buy the high res versions it was a reasonable price with instant online ordering.

The boatpix model is way outdated. I would have bought a dozen photos from them for, say, $25 each by now, instead I have bought $0. They did send me some very nice photos once, unfortunately they would not send them in the reasonable size I wanted and I just couldn't justify the price.
So you think the cost basis for a guy sitting atop a mountain shooting several hundred skiers a day is comparable to a guy in a helicopter shooting a handful of boats?

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For $125 you can own your own helicopter camera and take all the pictures you want.
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So you think the cost basis for a guy sitting atop a mountain shooting several hundred skiers a day is comparable to a guy in a helicopter shooting a handful of boats?
No, my point was that they got with the times. They used to do the same thing, guys up top shooting, end of the day try to find your photos at the lodge, get guilt tripped into buying them for $25 (or paranoid thinking someone else would get them) or whatever.

I was pretty impressed with their adoption of technology and the fact that I could look at my photos 2 hours later and purchase online instantly. On top of that, they artfully branded the photos so that they were good advertising for their service if you chose to click to publish them to facebook. None of that was rocket science but it was well done.

I don't know how many people actually buy the boatpix photos but I have to assume from this thread that more people dislike their model than like it.

PS: I know a couple semi-pro photographers here in Fort Lauderdale, I am pretty sure you could "rent" them for $500 a helicopter ride. They may even know somebody to take them up, I'll ask. Hell, for $20 a photo I'd consider taking them out on the weekends, they can shoot from my tuna tower.
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I bought (3) 16X20's from BoatPix last summer. Great pictures, had them framed and hung up.
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