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Old 02-24-2012, 07:11 PM
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"this will be a tourney boat spending 2-4 days in the gulf at a time".

2-4 days? Really? Uh huh.

Well, then WHY are you buying a 42 open boat w quad power anyway? That boat is designed for great dayfishing where getting there and back fast matters. Or an overnighter to the rigs for a fun and hearty crew. But if youre serious about multiple days offshore, or a series of over-nighter billfish tourneys, one wonders why youre not thinking about a convertible or big express? What difference does fuel burn make if you're really talking about multiple nights offshore in an open boat? It's just not the right tool for the job, though it is a great tool for fast & far day trips.
Great point! I know I wouldnt want to fish out 100+miles for up to 4 days in a open CC. It would be brutal.
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"this will be a tourney boat spending 2-4 days in the gulf at a time".

2-4 days? Really? Uh huh.

Well, then WHY are you buying a 42 open boat w quad power anyway? That boat is designed for great dayfishing where getting there and back fast matters. Or an overnighter to the rigs for a fun and hearty crew. But if youre serious about multiple days offshore, or a series of over-nighter billfish tourneys, one wonders why youre not thinking about a convertible or big express? What difference does fuel burn make if you're really talking about multiple nights offshore in an open boat? It's just not the right tool for the job, though it is a great tool for fast & far day trips.

Guess I bought the wrong tool for the job. Just because you don't want or can't spend more than one night on an open boat doesn't mean others don't enjoy it. I do it routinely and love every minute I'm on the water in an open boat. I take a fresh water shower every night and sleep like a baby on a bean bag. My tool works well for me and might be exactly what the OP needs.

I agree with the others on efficiency on these boats as well. They do great with the "south Florida" loads of 100 gallons of fuel and 100 pounds of ice, but when u load these boats down they get thirsty. It changes the range on some boats from 600 miles to 400 which is a big deal when you are running 150 miles one way.
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"this will be a tourney boat spending 2-4 days in the gulf at a time".

2-4 days? Really? Uh huh.

Well, then WHY are you buying a 42 open boat w quad power anyway? That boat is designed for great dayfishing where getting there and back fast matters. Or an overnighter to the rigs for a fun and hearty crew. But if youre serious about multiple days offshore, or a series of over-nighter billfish tourneys, one wonders why youre not thinking about a convertible or big express? What difference does fuel burn make if you're really talking about multiple nights offshore in an open boat? It's just not the right tool for the job, though it is a great tool for fast & far day trips.
I normally don't chime in much on posts like this. However, fishing for a couple or more days on a CC in the gulf is not unheard of at all. There are plenty of guys in La and Tx that regularly make these runs, and buy Center Consoles for that purpose. Double overnighters are fairly common.

I actually prefer them over a single overnighter. Leave the pass before dark, run a few hours. Maybe even cut down to one motor and take turns watching the radar with the autopilot to run 8 knots and double your effective range. Then wake up and you're 130+++ miles offshore at daylight with a good night of sleep under you belt. And you still have a day and a half to fish. It's a much more enjoyable trip to me. Less rushing and you can try different areas without worrying about time as much.

For the guys in the south that do these extended trips these big center consoles are the best avenue. Speed, range, fishbox capacity, and ice retention are the most important. Of course they don't offer the creature comforts of an express, but we make do.

To the original OP. The 42 Inv is an incredible boat. Looks huge compared to the 36. I do think 1mpg out of a boat that size with a real canyon load in the gulf isn't realistic. That's a tremendous of weight. Light in protected waters you could probably see it.

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When I started typing JJ hadn't responded. But this is how it's done down here. Definitely not everybody's cup of tea....

I've spent 4 days/3 nights offshore in a 31cc for a tourney. Traveling over 500 miles and carrying 2000lbs of ice. We make do with what we have.

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A decent sporty with any resale value will cost you 850k to 1.5 mill. Those boats also burn 120+ gph at 35mph. The operational cost alone on a basic boat like a 55-61 Viking, not to mention a Garlington or custom Carolina boat is around $150k a year. Add $50k if an engine blows or any other unforeseen issue pops up. I can own a really nice super CC that does the same job at a 10th of the cost and charter a nice boat in a great location and keep a lot more money invested.
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From fishing In our boat on an overnighter then fishing I'n a sportfish... the sportfish sucked compared to our open cc IMO no fish box room terrible at drift slow as hell and burnt a Ton of fuel I'll take the cc any day over the yacht
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http://invincibleboats.com/42WalkAround.html

2-4 nights at a time and I'd wait to see how the new walk around model looks.
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From fishing In our boat on an overnighter then fishing I'n a sportfish... the sportfish sucked compared to our open cc IMO no fish box room terrible at drift slow as hell and burnt a Ton of fuel I'll take the cc any day over the yacht
What type of sportfish was it? You cannot generalize all sportfish boats into one category. Size, weight, deadrise, layout, etc. It all makes a difference. While I haven't spent extended time on a large CC before, I cannot imagine that it would be more comfortable than in an express. OP, if you want a big CC, I'm sure you won't go wrong with the Invincible but in that size and dollar range, I'd personally look into different options.
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To some extent I'm not arguing w you guys. The merits of a big, fast, open cc are significant. But......the specific comment I quoted had to do with "2-4 days offshore" which is unlikely to honestly be the common trip. And if/when it does happen is, frankly, better suited for a different type of boat than a 42 Invincible.

I really love some of the big cc's and I definitely "get" what they're all about. And an overnighter to the oil rigs on one is great. But c'mon, if you want to go offshore for multiple days, or fish a string of gulf coast billfish tourneys, thats not the best tool.
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2-4 nights at a time and I'd wait to see how the new walk around model looks.
Any idea when the first will be complete?
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Any idea when the first will be complete?
They have the molds done but have been so busy they aren't trying to rush it so maybe by April the first one will be completed.
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