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Old 02-09-2005, 07:44 AM
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Default 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

I am looking for some feedback in comparing the 2 vessels. I am currently in the hunt for the best of both worlds (fishing battlewagon and amenities) and have narrowed it to these two.* If anyone can offer some info. I would greatly appreciate.

I realize that the BFin's ride is at the top of the class in that size. I haven't a clue as to the performance of the Pursuit. Needing to know fishability, economy,*overall*quality and/or a logical comparison.

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Old 02-09-2005, 04:32 PM
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I have never been on a 33' BF but the 32' SFFB is a GREAT machine (modern day bert 31 with a better flybridge)(Some concider it better than the 33',I think 1992 or 93 was the last year of the 32') the blackfin cockpit is lower to the water (mutch better in my mind for fishing) than the pursuit 33' that I fished on. so the boats your looking at are new than the one's I used. It would be hard to compair them for me (one had gas (p) and one deiseils (BF)) the BF will have and will cost more $ and have better resale value! my money would be for the blackfin, but pursuit makes a good boat! see witch one your more comfortable with in the cockpit, flybridge(if that's the modle your after), and compare them with the same power. good luck I don't think that you can go wrong with either of them. steve
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

I don't think these two vessels are even in the same class!!! The Blackfin should be held in the same high reguard as Bertram, Hateras and Viking......Pursuit is a mid class builder along the lines with Proline, Aquasport and such. Pursuit specializes in 24-29 foot boats with the 33 being the queen of the fleet while Blackfin boats are builts and designed from 29-40 fotters being the norm....The Blackfin will run circles around the Pursuit. If you plan on staying in the bay, go with the Pursuit......The next time you are out in the Hudson with 3-5 footers count how many Pursuits you see out there.....I bet you find a bunch of Blackfins loading upon the Yellowfins.......
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Old 02-10-2005, 01:53 AM
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

"Pursuit is a mid class builder along the lines with Proline, Aquasport and such."

I think you'd get a lot of arguement on that comment. Pursuit is definitely top tier as far as production boats are concerned. No, they aren't a custom shop, but the product they produce is as close to the fit and finish of custom you can get (and in some cases better). Check out the resale for a larger scale production boat. It's pretty impressive. I'm not arguing the Blackfin vs. Pursuit as the BF may suit his purpose better, but I don't think they are along the same lines as the two stated above.
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Old 02-10-2005, 06:57 AM
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

Caddis, I agree, I think cartaynic bumped his head about a Pursuit. Pursuitr is every bit the quality boat a Blackfin is. It may not carry the same deep v hull as the Blackfin which in a head on sea will take a little longer to get there but it will go anywhere the Blackfin will!
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Old 02-10-2005, 07:18 AM
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

I*appreciate these responses. Ok, then if you guys had to*rate an express boat 1 thru 5, how would it fall? (32' thru 36' class Express)

Blackfin 1)*Topaz 2) Pursuit 3) Tiarra 4) Proline 5) ..??*

Ranked on offshore capabilities first. Fit finish and amenities following.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:20 AM
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Hi Chasin Tale, I've got my boat since 2004 July and I've still not had riding problems with her. I've been running on NW 5-6 Beaufort seas on Adriatic sea when I purchased the boat for a total 1050nm, to keep her at home: the optimum ride with those waves was 21-23kns at 1900-2050rpm. In my knowledge, I never rided so safe and dry*on a 32' fishing boat. But I don't know the Blackfin hull. My boat's hull "numbers" are 70 degrees at bow and 18.5 deadrise.*Dry weight w/ tw Cat3126B: 25.500lbs

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Old 02-10-2005, 08:23 AM
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

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I*appreciate these responses. Ok, then if you guys had to*rate an express boat 1 thru 5, how would it fall? (32' thru 36' class Express)

Blackfin 1)*Topaz 2) Pursuit 3) Tiarra 4) Proline 5) ..??*

Ranked on offshore capabilities first. Fit finish and amenities following.
You left out Albemarle and Carolina Classic.

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Old 02-10-2005, 08:41 AM
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Well Chasin Tale I guess it depends on which kind of tail you spend most of your time chasin. Do you spend more time cruising or do you spend more time fishing? Does the Admiral like fishing or does she prefer cruising, anchoring out for the night, or just being someplace quiet? You had better get a boat that 'she who must be obeyed' is happy with.

The BF is an excellent fishing boat. It is not a very good cruising boat. The Pursuit is a better cruising boat but most are gas powered so they are fuel thirsty. The BF will go out days that the Pursuit should be left in its slip. The Pursuit has many more human comforts than the BF. You can't have it both ways. A boat is collection of floating compromises, no matter what the advertising says.

I'll run my Albin 32 through any sea with a BF but my Albin is S L O W. My best cruise is only 16kts. Still I have things that the BF or Pursuit has. I have a single diesel, carry 260gal fuel (huge range), carry 115gal fresh water (that is more than many larger trawlers), have a centerline queen berth fwd & a larger than knig sized berth aft, have a much larger galley counter area than the Pursuit (Admirals like workable galleys), a roomy head & separate shower (Admirals like these too).

If speed is not a real big issue expand your horizons. There are plenty of others to look at beyond the best known name brands.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:45 AM
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It's ok, it*doesn't exist the perfect boat, but the boat that better fits Your asks and ways to use it (only canyon fishing, fishing/cruising, pleasure cruising and*rare fishing etc....)*
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:06 AM
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

I think from what I am hearing the 32' Topaz would be the boat for you. More dough then the other boats but you are getting an awesome fishing and cruising machine. Will go out in the same weather as the BF, and you will have one of the finest finishes ever. Plus the 32 Topaz has atleast 80 miles more range then the BF, with a faster crusing speed.

My choice is for the Topaz
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:36 AM
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

The 34 Pursuit and Tiara are both built by S2 Yachts in Holland Michigan. You will not find a better quality production boat. Keep in mind, the 34 Pursuit criuses at 28 knots, and tops out at about 34 knots with 370 diesels. It is fast and very fuel efficient. I would go in any sea that a blackfin would go out in. The boat handles very well. The blackfin is a better head sea boat, do to the deeper deadrise, when you get in 4' and up. However, the Pursuit is all around, a lot more comfortable, and is a great blend of fishing/cruising.
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:55 AM
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

"If you plan on staying in the bay, go with the Pursuit"

To all: I am in the market for a quality bay boat. Most of our useage will be to drive from the docks a few hundred yards out into the bay for a raft up. Of course this boat will only be used on sunny days with wind less than 5 miles per hour.

Is the 34 pursuit sufficient for my intended use? Or is there some concern that this boat will not be up to the rough stuff that I might encounter during my voyages?

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Old 02-10-2005, 10:34 AM
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

Yes the Admiral is some concern but*she likes it offshore as well. I would be able to give way to some amenities to have a true tested battle wagon. I'll save the "bay boat" plushness for when I get to old to enjoy the bluewater. 'Course I think*as long as find women attarctive and my heart still has some pumping ability, that'll never happen.

To answer, her imput is limited. I realize compromise to get the best of both. Just trying to narrow the consensus, bouncing the cost to get the best all round sea boat.

Kurtiss; that's the kind of feed I'm looking for. There is a 34 Pursuit down your way (Jackvlle.) that i have under scrutiny as this subject is addressed.

I did forget, not intentionally to include CClassic and Albes. How would you guys rank the list on comfort in all seas 1st, fishability 2nd then the other.

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Oh, ok that's a different story.



*I was responding to your first question to rate offshore capabilities.

For best performance in all sea conditions I would be looking at a reduced dead rise boat something between 18 and 14.

I have owned a Pursuit 26 so I cant comment on the ride of the larger boats but the fit and finish was top self.



*I would rate the Pursuit line as one of the best for overall conditions. You can't miss with Pursuit.Dave

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Old 02-10-2005, 02:06 PM
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

I have a 3400 Pursuit with the Volvo 370 hp diesels without a tower. WOT is a c-hair over 31 knots and we cruise at 21-24 comfortably. She's getting around 1.1 to 1.2 mpg after about 1200 gallons of fuel. I bought the boat for light fishing and it works well but entering the cabin is like going into the dark hold. It has a beautiful cabin for sure but a flybridge has much greater living space and would be a no brainer to go that way if you cruise alot IMO. It is a great boat and I like it a lot. I don't have a lot of comparisons to draw from but I fished a 46 Bertram last October and it rocked liked a F*cking hobby horse at idle in the washing machine of Key West but underway it was like Moses parting the Red Sea and I was unimpressed and wish 'd I'd had my own boat that day.
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Old 02-10-2005, 02:24 PM
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Someone said,"The 34 Pursuit and Tiara are both built by S2 Yachts in Holland Michigan. You will not find a better quality production boat. " I just happened to walk past a brand new 30 something Tiara at the AC Boat Show. They used cheap a$$ plastic fitting about the waterline. Cheap, Cheap, Crap, Stupid Stupid Stu, Stupid no I repete No quality boatbuilder would cheap crappy plastic through-hulls anywhere on their boats. Man if they skimp where you can see it; how do you think the rest of the boat is put together. Man I think even Bayliner uses Bronze Through-Hulls.
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Old 02-10-2005, 03:37 PM
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Default RE: 33' Blackfin to 34' Pursuit ?

I certainly wasn't impressed by Tiara's plastic through hulls when I decided to buy our 01 29 Coronet. Fortunately, my experience with the boat has not confirmed that the plastic through hulls are representative of the entire vessel. At the very least, it's a poor marketing decision for Tiara to save a few bucks on these fittings only to have people say your entire boat must be a POS because of them.
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Old 02-10-2005, 04:40 PM
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I think Tiara*doesn't*choose some cheap components, even they're plastic thru-hulls.But I don't know about those components quality because the only thru-hull my boat has got is the anchor well's*discharge.I think the better thru-hulls are*316L steel, because my bronzes I had on my Grady 208 became green at the oxidation. Not that it was a danger, but it seems not too finelooking...bye! ben
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