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Old 01-10-2012, 03:24 AM
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Default Deep cleaning Awlgrip ??.?.???.???

Buying an Awlgriped boat. Painted 2008.
Looks like it hasn't been maintained to its full potential.. What is the process of getting back maximum finish ??
I don't have the boat yet, so maybe soap and water will do the trick, but if not what is the next aggressive step without messing up the finish ???
Oh yea, it's Awlgrip 2
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It is like any other paint finish - think your car. Less abrasive the better.
I have had good success using Star Brite Cleaner Wax put on with an orbital and then following it up with Star Brite Teflon Polish.
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Are you sure it's Awlgrip 2? They withderw that product from the market several years before 2008 and while there may have been some in someones paint cabinet, it isn't likely. Double check and ask if it isn't Awl-Grip 2000, AKA AwlCraft 2000.
Awlgrip 2 is an EXTREMELY hard paint and should last quite a long time. It is virtually unrepairable which is the main reason it is no longer available. It can be washed or buffed back to a shine with standard materials like Awl-Wash, Awl-Care, or Finese, or heavier grit rubbing compounds.
Awl-Craft 2000 is a much softer paint and according to their rep who was here yesterday, should be waxed within the first two years to help protect the shine. If the topcoat is thick enough, it can be buffed back and rewaxed but you are only going to get away with that a couple times before you burn through and have to repaint.
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Cleaner wax works really well on Awlgrip and if that doesnt do it you can use Finesse it ii, this should do the trick.
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Do:

  1. Wash the surface regularly with Awlwash 73234 and water. Regular cleaning will avoid build up which can slowly attack the topcoat, prematurely ageing the coating.
  1. Awlgrip and Awlgrip HS only:

    Solvents such as Awlprep T0008, Awlprep Plus T0115, toluene, laquer thinner, M.E.K., acetone or kerosene may be used to soften or remove heavy build ups of grease and grime, felt tip markings or spray paint on the topcoat.Awlcraft 2000 only:

    Use only mild solvents to remove stubborn stains. Awlprep T0008, mineral spirits, xylene, kerosene and diesel fuel are acceptable for use on Awlcraft 2000.For Awlgrip, Awlcraft 2000 and Awlgrip HS:

    Apply solvents with soft clean cloths. Wipe up solvent quickly. Do not allow solvent to dry on the surface or puddle and soak into the surface. Wash these areas with mild detergent and water to remove solvent residue.
  2. Always thoroughly rinse all surfaces with fresh water after cleaning with detergents or solvents. Latent solvent residue can attack the topcoat, while detergent residue will attract dirt.
  3. Use distilled white vinegar and hot water to remove stubborn salt stains.
  4. Use Awlcare 73240 by hand only to remove stubborn diesel soot stains.

Do Not:

  1. Do not wax.General:

    Wax build up ages and yellows very rapidly, creating the need to maintain the wax and causing the topcoat to appear yellow. Wax build up also collects dirt, increasing maintenance.Awlgrip Only:

    Waxing with a wax which contains no abrasives or cleaners will probably not hurt the surface, but at the same time offers no benefit. Regular waxing will not increase the life of an Awlgrip Finish. Wax can temporarily restore the gloss to small scuffs, scrapes, scratches. Sometimes allowing the postponement of repairs or repairing until a convenient time.Awlcraft 2000 Only:

    Waxing will help maintain the gloss on Awlcraft 2000 finishes, especially those which have been buffed or polished. Remember waxing leads to having to maintain the wax.Do not wax areas unless they are dull or hazed.
  2. Do not use abrasives, scratch pads or polishing compounds. Scratching the surface gives dirt a place to cling while wearing out the resin layer. Using abrasives of any kind will reduce the overall life of the finish and voids the Awlgrip Limited Warranty.
  3. Do not allow contact between the Awlgrip, Awlgrip HS or Awlcraft 2000 Topcoat and teak cleaners. Most teak cleaners contain acids or caustic agents that stain and discolor an Awlgrip, Awlgrip HS or Awlcraft 2000 Topcoat.
  4. Do not use strong solvents (e.g. lacquer thinner, M.E.K., acetone) to clean Awlcraft 2000, Awlbrite Clear or Awlspar Varnish.
  5. Do not allow wet equipment (e.g. seat cushions, coils of line, sails, sail covers, coolers) to trap and hold moisture against Awlgrip Topcoats. This condition can result in blistering or delamination of the Awlgrip, Awlgrip HS or Awlcraft 2000 Topcoat.
  6. Do not use acrylic †Teflon® coatings over an Awlgrip, Awlgrip HS or Awlcraft 2000 Finish. Use of these coatings void the Awlgrip Limited Warranty.
  7. Do not “shrink wrap” or tightly bind Awlgrip, Awlgrip HS or Awlcraft 2000 Topcoat surfaces with plastic wrappings.
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UPDATE !!
I tracked down the yard that did the paint.
It turns out it isn't Awlgrip. Its Alexseal.
I spoke with the paint foreman this morning. He says they switched over to Alexseal a few years ago and swears buy the stuff. They have been painting with Awlgrip as far back as 30 yrs ago. ( Its a pretty high end yard )
I'm about to do a search to learn more about it.
Is anyone familiar with the product ????
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Alexseal is a hard paint very similar to Awlgrip 2 but it is also repairable. Four years old isn't long at all for Alexseal so it should easily shine again with a little TLC. Try washing well first before you go heavier. Like any paint, once you start the buffing/waxing, you're doomed to having to keep it up forever. If a good cleaning (with boat soap only!) doesn't do it, next step is Finesse-it III.
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Thanks guys. Yes I found their website and they also suggest Fenessit ii.
Happy also to find out it is repairable as well. (never docked a 45 footer)
I'm thinking of runner her with Tires drapeing the whole boat.
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Do:

  1. Wash the surface regularly with Awlwash 73234 and water. Regular cleaning will avoid build up which can slowly attack the topcoat, prematurely ageing the coating.
  1. Awlgrip and Awlgrip HS only:

    Solvents such as Awlprep T0008, Awlprep Plus T0115, toluene, laquer thinner, M.E.K., acetone or kerosene may be used to soften or remove heavy build ups of grease and grime, felt tip markings or spray paint on the topcoat.Awlcraft 2000 only:

    Use only mild solvents to remove stubborn stains. Awlprep T0008, mineral spirits, xylene, kerosene and diesel fuel are acceptable for use on Awlcraft 2000.For Awlgrip, Awlcraft 2000 and Awlgrip HS:

    Apply solvents with soft clean cloths. Wipe up solvent quickly. Do not allow solvent to dry on the surface or puddle and soak into the surface. Wash these areas with mild detergent and water to remove solvent residue.
  2. Always thoroughly rinse all surfaces with fresh water after cleaning with detergents or solvents. Latent solvent residue can attack the topcoat, while detergent residue will attract dirt.
  3. Use distilled white vinegar and hot water to remove stubborn salt stains.
  4. Use Awlcare 73240 by hand only to remove stubborn diesel soot stains.

Do Not:

  1. Do not wax.General:

    Wax build up ages and yellows very rapidly, creating the need to maintain the wax and causing the topcoat to appear yellow. Wax build up also collects dirt, increasing maintenance.Awlgrip Only:

    Waxing with a wax which contains no abrasives or cleaners will probably not hurt the surface, but at the same time offers no benefit. Regular waxing will not increase the life of an Awlgrip Finish. Wax can temporarily restore the gloss to small scuffs, scrapes, scratches. Sometimes allowing the postponement of repairs or repairing until a convenient time.Awlcraft 2000 Only:

    Waxing will help maintain the gloss on Awlcraft 2000 finishes, especially those which have been buffed or polished. Remember waxing leads to having to maintain the wax.Do not wax areas unless they are dull or hazed.
  2. Do not use abrasives, scratch pads or polishing compounds. Scratching the surface gives dirt a place to cling while wearing out the resin layer. Using abrasives of any kind will reduce the overall life of the finish and voids the Awlgrip Limited Warranty.
  3. Do not allow contact between the Awlgrip, Awlgrip HS or Awlcraft 2000 Topcoat and teak cleaners. Most teak cleaners contain acids or caustic agents that stain and discolor an Awlgrip, Awlgrip HS or Awlcraft 2000 Topcoat.
  4. Do not use strong solvents (e.g. lacquer thinner, M.E.K., acetone) to clean Awlcraft 2000, Awlbrite Clear or Awlspar Varnish.
  5. Do not allow wet equipment (e.g. seat cushions, coils of line, sails, sail covers, coolers) to trap and hold moisture against Awlgrip Topcoats. This condition can result in blistering or delamination of the Awlgrip, Awlgrip HS or Awlcraft 2000 Topcoat.
  6. Do not use acrylic †Teflon® coatings over an Awlgrip, Awlgrip HS or Awlcraft 2000 Finish. Use of these coatings void the Awlgrip Limited Warranty.
  7. Do not “shrink wrap” or tightly bind Awlgrip, Awlgrip HS or Awlcraft 2000 Topcoat surfaces with plastic wrappings.
to the OP im happy you found a solution but bummed that this thread may die.

To the above poster, we appreciate that info, but id like for anyone to feel free to give more first person experience and recommendations BESIDES the above company line.
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Give this a shot - it is the holy grail by detailers for that final polish to get rid of slight cloudy spots in paint...


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