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Old 12-07-2011, 01:35 PM
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Anybody have any experience with these outboards? They are all over eBay right now. They are Chinese made and I'm assuming same quality of all those Chinese made four wheelers out there. However the price isn't bad. I couldn't find a company site but I did find one site claiming Yamaha parts are compatible and therefore easy to work on.

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If they are made anything like the Okuma Titus 50 reels I recently ordered and promptly returned to WalMart...I wouldn't own one...
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They cant even make a sheet of drywall without screwing it up. Id pass on the outboard.
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NOTICE: There are many new brand name of similar item in the market recently, although their price are really cheap, but the quality of their products are also terrible:

1. That factory only produce as a lower price as they can, they won't care about the quality.All our item is pass the ISO9001 quality certification

2. Have visit and purchase the item samples from some other supplier, many samples are in bad quality. After compare samples again and again from different supplier, finally we provide this top-quality item for you at lowest price.

3. You can purchase a high quality and safety machine, but please don't waste the money for a cheaper but a low quality machines. We only sell top-quality item. Base on the top-quality, then we will beat our price as lowest on eBay.

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5. We only sale the top-quality machine, we can provide the reasonable price since we have fight with the supplier as a lowest cost as we can.


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$460 plus $452 for shipping??

you can buy a 4 hp tohatsu for a couple bucks more and get an engine that is well made and reliable, with a US dealer network and service.

not for me,
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The selling price plus shipping is over $900. Might as well pony up a little more for the more familiar brands sold by countries that don't want to kill us.
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They are the Chinese knock-off of Yamaha designs. They do not meet EPA regulations for new motors and I understand that just like foreign cars that don't meet emission specs, they are not to be sold in the US legally.

Chinese outboards are often seen in Australia and quality control issues are common.
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If it wasn't for the shipping and they sold them at Harbor Freight, I'd buy one. I'm guessing these are gray market.
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crap like this is why some people end up hating boats

recreation by it's very nature is often not going to be cheap and it is going to always come at the expense of your productivity yet some people insist on trying to recreate with the absolute worst crap possible

hey look at this raft I got made of garbage bags to hit the mighty Colorado with!

or "these ski boots are two sizes too big, but you will grow into them and wear a lot of socks"

then when the experience sucks it is because that activity sucks not their ability to choose the proper gear that sucks

I sold scuba gear in Austin, Texas while in college for a while......we carried Scuba Pro (not one of the cheapest brands in cost and the price was set by the manufacturer)

one of the "closing lines" I had for the guys that were going some place cool to go diving and they were going to save cash on gear by "getting it at the pawn shop" was

when you are at 90 feet and you have paid hundreds of not thousands of dollars to get there.......your ass is only worth 65 bucks at the pawn shop?

it almost never failed because even if they were cheap and could find a decent regulator at pawn shop it still pointed out the stupidity of them trying to save 100 dollars or so on a trip they were bragging about how their bar bills would be in the hundreds of dollars

if you can't afford to dot he activity right don't do it and stick to bowling because at least a garage sale ball with finger holes that require you to wear a glove and gives you hand cramps is only 5 bucks and when you get tired of that you can use the house balls FREE!
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My perception of ISO standards is it is a "manufacturing" quality standard for a particular company. since many of the components are outsourced, "manufacturing" becomes "assembly and finish". Their assembly and finish may meet ISO standards, but the individual components, manufactured from used beer cans and typical crappy Chinese plastics, are substandard.

The Chinks are leaning heavily on this ISO certification crap because it gives a false impression of overall quality. Sure it's "assembled" properly, but it's assembled from JUNK.

Hey..I just realized.."Chinese Junk" is the name of their ships for centuries. We should have known better....................
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I think we have more than enough Chinese crap in this country already. Honestly, how many of us have bought something cheap made in China and been happy with the product long term?
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My perception of ISO standards is it is a "manufacturing" quality standard for a particular company. since many of the components are outsourced, "manufacturing" becomes "assembly and finish". Their assembly and finish may meet ISO standards, but the individual components, manufactured from used beer cans and typical crappy Chinese plastics, are substandard.

The Chinks are leaning heavily on this ISO certification crap because it gives a false impression of overall quality. Sure it's "assembled" properly, but it's assembled from JUNK.

Hey..I just realized.."Chinese Junk" is the name of their ships for centuries. We should have known better....................

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Lots of equipment like this for sale from china. Its cheap and it works sometimes, but more likely than not youll spend 2 hours of fixing for every hour of use and you might have to re-
Engineer it to make it work right. I know a guy that buys heavy equipment like this and he ends up rewelding, replacing parts and fixing assembly mistakes before he can even use it the first time. Your money would be well spent on tohatsu, you can probably save money by getting one used.
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My perception of ISO standards is it is a "manufacturing" quality standard for a particular company. since many of the components are outsourced, "manufacturing" becomes "assembly and finish". Their assembly and finish may meet ISO standards, but the individual components, manufactured from used beer cans and typical crappy Chinese plastics, are substandard.

The Chinks are leaning heavily on this ISO certification crap because it gives a false impression of overall quality. Sure it's "assembled" properly, but it's assembled from JUNK.

Hey..I just realized.."Chinese Junk" is the name of their ships for centuries. We should have known better....................
This is a great example of why our nation is going down the tubes.
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Lots of equipment like this for sale from china. Its cheap and it works sometimes, but more likely than not youll spend 2 hours of fixing for every hour of use and you might have to re-
Engineer it to make it work right. I know a guy that buys heavy equipment like this and he ends up rewelding, replacing parts and fixing assembly mistakes before he can even use it the first time. Your money would be well spent on tohatsu, you can probably save money by getting one used.
Half the people that see me running the Tohatsu on my inflatable think it's Chinese, Sometimes friends have asked why I bought a "Chinese" outboard, than I explain I bought it purposefully for the quality but especially because it was the lightest one I could get( and of course it’s Japanese), and that many of the smaller Mercs are made by Tohatsu, they just look at me funny, Kind of like "Huh???” I just putter away.
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Beware. In the 70's Japanese cars were junk. In the 80/90's Korean cars were junk.

A few years ago Okuma reels were junk too............the Makaira's have changed that big time.
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Beware. In the 70's Japanese cars were junk. In the 80/90's Korean cars were junk.

A few years ago Okuma reels were junk too............the Makaira's have changed that big time.
I wouldn't say "junk", but unsuited for our market. Early Datsuns were anvils on wheels, but dinky anvils. At least the Japs had good steel and plastics, unlike the Chinese.

China is more comparable to India or Russia in product quality.
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Holy SMOKE! The manufacturer recommends 25:1 oil mix. I guess if you throw enough lubrication at it, it may last one year.
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