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Old 09-26-2011, 06:05 PM
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Id like to install a rigging tube in the near future if possible. This is what I have to work with. The throttle cable is looped with a lot of access line, with the boot at almost a 90 degree angle from the motor. Can the throttle/shift cable be shortened? Not sure how I would pull that off. The battery compartment is on the opposite side. I could possibly run it under and through the bilge area and exiting through the existing cable boot, if I were to get longer cable. Or would that be a bad idea? The fuel line is also too long in my opinion. And of course i have the sterring cable to deal with. I would like to make everything look a lot neater. Any suggestions?



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Replace that battery cable while you are at it because it sucks.
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The rigging tube should follow about the same path as the shift and throttle cables: effectively making a 270 degree loop into the engine. You should probably use the extra length of the control cables as a guide to how long the tube should be and not cut any off. The tube should maintain a minimum bend (I think it's a 12 inch diameter, but I'm not sure).
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Id like to install a rigging tube in the near future if possible. This is what I have to work with.
That's not very pretty - looks like my before pictures. The rigging tube would clean that up a lot, but you would have to find a different location for the primer bulb. And the steering hoses will not go inside the rigging tube - they need a separate cable clam running thru your deck. But you could reduce that spaghetti monster to one fat tube and two thin hydraulic steering lines.

Think about pushing the excess lines back into the starboard corner, and have a clean 2-inch OD pipe come thru the gunnel where that floppy thru-hull boot is presently, with the engine control, fuel line, shifters and throttle cable, and Red/Black electrical lines all running into that rubber junction on the front end of your zuke. The control tube holds all that mess, and two stainless hose clamps keep everything in place. If you need to move the battery and 12+/ground cables - do it.

It's a bit of a challenge to route everything thru the rubber, but two beers and a third hand ought to get that done. It will be so much cleaner and better protected after you make that change.
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TH-Marine makes a nice flange with an adapter so you can have your primer bulb on the side of the rigging tube. I installed one on my boat.
http://www.thmarine.com/product.cfm?PRID=196

http://www.thmarine.com/product.cfm?PRID=103
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How watertight are rigging lines versus the traditional grommet style? It seems to me, that the grommet would stop water infiltration more than the rigging. I know you are suppose to use a hose clamp, but could you use sealant at the motor rigging flange? I would have to relocate the steering lines out of the existing boot and use some sort of thru-hull steering fitting, with short 3'-4' cables. The fuel line would then have to be ran thru the rigging tube. As it is now, the fuel fitting on the motorwell uses a 3/8 barb to the smaller (1/4,5/16) line. How could i transition between the two if i won't be using the fitting any longer? IF i were to use the same shift/throttle cable, wouldn't I need to have the wiring harness wires the same length? Id have to see how much slack is available. I know you can get shorter shift/throttle cables, but only i think they're only available in 1 foot interval lengths. I would still like to keep the battery location where it is. Would it be okay to run a new battery cable in the along the upper wall of the bilge area?


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Suzuki Flange
http://store.brownsp..._id=67300-93J00
TH Marine Rigging Tube
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or the Suzuki brand (Browns Point said it would still work on my DF140)
http://store.brownsp..._id=990C0-20010
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My Northcoast rigging was like that before I redid it, had similar rubber boots, I made Starboard squares to cover the old holes then attached the rigging tube mounts. I ran the fuel line inside the rigging tube, the primer bulbs are inside the compartments on either side of the motors. Despite what appears to be extreme bends in the shift and throttle cables they worked perfectly.
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My Northcoast rigging was like that before I redid it, had similar rubber boots, I made Starboard squares to cover the old holes then attached the rigging tube mounts. I ran the fuel line inside the rigging tube, the primer bulbs are inside the compartments on either side of the motors. Despite what appears to be extreme bends in the shift and throttle cables they worked perfectly.
Thanks for your help. Pictures are always worth a thousand words. Your motors are also close to the motor wells like mine. I would love to see how your steering lines are run. The starboard square pieces look clean and professional. Good work indeed.
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Thanks for your help. Pictures are always worth a thousand words. Your motors are also close to the motor wells like mine. I would love to see how your steering lines are run. The starboard square pieces look clean and professional. Good work indeed.

I notched the large inside piece of Starboard and then made the two smaller pieces so thier openings met and the steering line could fit, they are not tight enough to cause any issue but not so loose as to allow a lot of water to come in. I did not want to disconnect the steering lines when I put on the new motors, I reused the old steering.
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That is a very clever way of running your lines. I might try that if i dont disconnect mine.

Have you ever had any trouble with water getting in your tubing? OR anyone else for that matter? Seems like that could potentially cause problems with electrical issues or worse.
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I need a new longer length of speedometer pitot tubing to give some more slack in my outboard rigging. Teleflex has 1/8, and 4mm. What size would i need for my Suzuki. Gauge is VDO. Best place to find it?
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