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Old 01-11-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Yamaha 150 HPDI

I have a not so secret source on Yamaha 150 HPDI's. They will cost $5k less than the F150's( for a CR pair). There is an oil resevoir issue that may add $600 to the HPDI's. 300 is the max power I can put on my cat. Are the F150's worth $4400 more...also, My warranty would be 5 years with the HPDI and 3 with the F-150. Comments, suggestions?


* If the Verados , ETEC, or Suzuki have a 150 available by Feb 1, 2005..I will consider them too....
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I have another secret.They are only rated at 137 horsepower.
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I have another secret.They are only rated at 137 horsepower.
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Proof source please?

Do you own one?
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Old 01-11-2005, 06:12 PM
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Proof?What do you mean proof?I don't have any proof nor do I own one.I thought if you had an opinion that an outboard only has such and such horsepower you just posted it-right?
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Proof?What do you mean proof?I don't have any proof nor do I own one.I thought if you had an opinion that an outboard only has such and such horsepower you just posted it-right?
Shall we have a lesson in logic?
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I drive a 2002 GB 2670 with 2002 (early 2002 model year) Yam 150 HPDI's. We run hard, troll for hours, then run hard. 158 hrs last yr.

The only problem I have had is I lost a water pump on the day I launched it for the 2003 season. Fortunately I was at the Marina/ Dealer where my boat spends the winter and they told me to run the motors at the dock before i left for my one hour run to my marina in MA. The pump "Chit The Bed" at the dock. They hauled it and replaced it in 30 mins.

If I was repowering for this Spring I would go Yam 150 4 Strokes. They are so quiet you can hear a fieldmouse fart onshore. The RPM range is impressive
and the economy and polution aspect is worth consideration.

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Suzuki won't have a 150 this year (maybe 2006) but the 140 is a good motor and the warranty is for 6 years (until March).
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Sorry cracker-I guess that rule only applies to the Suzuki DF-140.My apology,
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Crackerasscracker:

I put 200 hours per year for three years on my 150 HPDI. Best engine I've ever owned. Not one problem. Quiet for a two-stroke. Sipped very little oil. Most of my hours were spent trolling. I changed plugs every 100 hours, but never because I had to. I did use Ring-Free regularly.

I would find it very hard to believe that the engine was well under the rated horsepower.

That said, if I had it to do again, I would have chosen the four stroke only because I'd like to spend more time very slow trolling live baits. If I wasn't into the slow trolling, I would find it difficult to part with an extra $4400.

Good luck with your decision.

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Sorry cracker-I guess that rule only applies to the Suzuki DF-140.My apology,
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If you can show me where I said that the Suzuki 140 was not 140 HP, I will apologize....If not, please apologize for real....

Here is a hint, I said i would like to see how motors were rated by HP.....


Thanks for the other responses..... Deep down, I know the F150 or the Honda 150 are the best available, but I could spend some of that money on a radar and some more on diamod earings for the wife......which will increase my alloted fishing trips this year.....
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Hey Cracker, I have several friends with those motors. All have had a bunch of success. I will personally never go back to two-stroke technology, but that is just a personal preference. The one friend I knew with those motors had over 700+ hrs with out any major issues. I think early on there was some plug fouling and I don't remember what the exact problem was but it was resolved. The performance is almost the same as the F150's and with that kind of warranty........ your getting some piece of mind. Just remember that Yamalube aint cheap.
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Easy cracker-I wasn't directing it at you at all-just funnin' the forum a little.Sorry for derailing your thread.
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I will say that the F150's are great engines. On the high end of power, lighter than the HPDIs and they have a very good mechanical track record. Shop the F150 real hard maybe you can lessen the cost difference. I notice Ed's has a pair special of 150 HPDIs for 15,999 and F150's for 20,999. Five thousand difference is a hard number to swallow. I would try to swing the 4 strokes if I could.
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If your going to keep them for awhile I would vote for the f150. Those are some awesome engines with great performance and no yamilube or ring free
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I like these, but than again I would like to hear that fieldmouse fart!



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A good friend of mine is a charter captain in Venice La. He has a pair of 150 hpdi's on the back of a Glacier Bay 26. This is his second set he put 2000 hrs on. The other captain's who work for the same group went to F150's. They wish they were coomparable motors but not even close!!! The hpdi's run circles around the f150's. He says the key to long life is fuel additive and tlc. I would buy tye 150hpdi's and pocket the cash jj.
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Here is an excellent offer on a new pair of F150s.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4518138930&rd= 1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

I have no financial interest in this offer.* (Just wish I had the $$$ available...** :-)

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'02 engines, 350 trouble free hours.
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All other things equal the F150 would be the easy choice. But they are not equal and $4,400 is a lot of $$$. I do not see the justification for spending the extra money.
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I have a pair of 2002 200HPDI's which are the same block as the 150HPDI's with 350 hours of flawless operation on them. I run Yamalube and Ring Free religiously!

The 4400 in saving less 600 for rigging and oil tanks leaves you 3800. Take that 3800 and get a radar for 2400 (which is a killer Furuno 1731MK3) and you have 1400 left. That buys you enough Yamalube and ring free to treat almost 2800 gallons of gas (at 18 gal Yamalube and 22.50 qt Ring Free using 50:1 gas to oil and 10:1 ring free).

Thats a lot of gas!!

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