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Old 09-01-2011, 07:08 AM
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Default 30-35 Cat Sportfish boats with cabin?

My last group of boats to look at, I went thru a ton of DE style boats and neither my Pop or myself were overly excited about going that route. Most are to slow, or have single engines to get the best performance out of them and we both still want twin engines. I have a few more to check out but I think we're still looking toward the modified V express with twin diesels, #one still being the 32 Topaz and then the 34 Pursuit after that.
The Cats are the last thing for us to check out, we both are actually Cat fans, and almost bought a 27 World cat before we bought our Albemarle, the 27 just had to small of a cabin. So I'm going to see what is out there as far as 30-35' Cats in an Express or WA, maybe a forward cuddy. The nicer ones I've seen like the Freeman are CC's, I know they're comeing out with the Express or FA now, but it will be3 to new and expensive for us. I looked at the 36 Calcutta which I really liked byt again to high, Renaisance Prowler made a really nice boat but are no longer in business and there are very few express models out there. WCat makes a 32EC but still a bit high, maybe good swing a used one of them. Glacier Bays are to slow and not very economical since we'd have togo to the 3460 model. Amercat's are actually a possibility I like them, they have very good reviews and are very reasonably priced, I think they are also comeing out with a cabin boat in the 31'er. I looked at a 36 Benchmark which was prewtty nice, but they';re out of business as well so I'm hesitant to buy one of them. Baha don't like, Hyrocat 30' is a decent boat priced well, but not my taste. The only other I saw was the Pro sports ProKat 36'er with a good size cabin, I didn;t see any bad reviews on them yet, but since you ussually get what you pay for they;re low prices make me suspicious but if anyone knows about them please let me know. I would like the idea of a good size Cat the ones I have been on were really nice and smooth when running but we weren't in rough seas. they obviously are excellent on the drift. I was out on a 32 WCat in some nasty weather and that boat was most definetly a battle wagon, extremely nice ride and would more then handle the seas we fish in. Are there any I've missed? Or any thoughts on the ones I've mentioned specifically the prokats. I'm going to check out a site that has alot of Cat discussions on it and see what they say. Again any input would be great, we're just really trying to look at all different boats and pick the best one for our needs. thanks.
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Thoughts on the Prokat......nice boat and ride, but lacking in quality, fit and finish. That's not to say that they are bad boats, they just need some upgrading in certain areas. If you had the time to do it, they make a great base platform, you just need to inspect or rewire the electrical, hardware was not the highest quality used, seal the deck joints....things such as that. As I said, they seem to be a great platform, they were just lacking a little when it came to quality components/hardware/accessories. Stuff that can all be replaced and should be checked thoroughly on any boat used for offshore duties.

The World Cat, Freeman and Calcutta are all definitely top picks.....not easy on the budget though.
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I honestly think a 29 or 32 WC express is going to be the best Cat for you. There is an Aerocat in Rhode Island that caught my eye. It looks to be very economical.

http://www.aerocatboats.com/
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I should also let you know that a freind has a 2008 29 Twin Vee Pilot house on the cape with under 100 hours on 250 Suzukis that he would sell.

The boat feels big and rides AWSOME.

It's just like this one but without the bar around the engines

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Take a look at the Calcutta 360. you can google it at Calcutta 360 and go on a virtual tour or see the website calcuttaboats.com we also have a thread on the hull truth under calcutta build thread. i am the builder as well. Feel free to PM me . we have a beautiful boat we just finished that is available to see and we have another one that is in the shop and will be finished Oct 15 th.
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amberlee2, what factors eliminated the Hydrocat 30'?

Priced very well..........built by Don Fiddler (Mr Sea Cat) correct?...........it also has a 10ft beam..........the only negative I've seen is that some can be bow tippy(just add trim)...........but has the Bull stamp of approval..........

Cat builders come and go...............even if the builder is still in business today..........this economy has got to hit these builders ability to maintain high standards of quility and support........

Meaning...............is there really that much of a downside to buying a Cat that is no longer
built??........the best advice I've got on this board is..............go out and start riding in all these different Cats................... sounds like Cats have different attitudes.........
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Ameracat just finished a 33 with an extended console, berth, head, ac
glass windshield and tower which I hope to take possession of this weekend. I'll see
if I can put up a photo later if I can figure it out. Or pm me
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Most of the ones i like are out of our price range, that Aerocat Out island is a boat I would be very interersted in, love the 36 Calcutta, freeman and the 32 WC EC. Most of these boats are a money issue, I would like to know what the Aerocat O.I. would run with engines and hardtop, that's a bad ass looking rig. As far as rides I've only been on the WC's the 27 and the 32ec both were impressive, also was ona Glacier Bay. I saw a benchmark which I beleive are out of business but it looked like a good boat and people had good reviews on them. I did check out the ProKat some more and I'm not all that thrilled about them. Not sure about the hydrocats I'll check them out again, definetly in the right price range,even cheaper. I have a freind who is looking at buying one. there's a possibility we could get into a 32 Ec WCat on aused one. I just really like the Ameracat Out Island, I think the Freeman with the cabin is going tobe an incredible boat but again to much for us. I'm going to check some more out and try and get some prices on some of the ones I like. thanks.
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if you want cheap, here you go

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That Blue Aerocat "Out Island" was built for a Dentist in the keys. From what I understand, the performance is outstanding.

I might be wrong but I believe the Benchmark hull turned into the Calcutta?
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I don't know what i was looking at when I thought it was the hydrocat but I went back and looked them up again and really liked them, they have alot of fishing room, good size beam and decent size cabin.. Plenty of range as well, do you guys know what they cruise at and burn at that speed? I'm definetly going to find one near by and check it out, they seem tobe well thought of by the posts I looked up on them, do you guys know what the best engine set-up would be for these boats? Are the diesel versions worht looking into or OB's the way togo. I'm hearing cruiseing numbers that don't sound all that great for a Cat, also what model with a cabin of the hydro's would be best, it looks like they closed up around 2004. I saw some renaissance Prowlers 305's I think they were these boat were very nice but it looks like there weren't alot of them made. Another quality small boat builder that just couldn't keep it's doors open, there are so many boat builders out there that didn't last long, and many of them had nothing todo with the quality of their boats, just marketing and tough times. Plus alot were caught up in guys still not excepting the cats as viable Offshore sportfishing boats. I'll spend some more time looking into these, I would love the 33 Freeman with the new cabin , the 360 Calcutta maybe the best of them all, WorldCat 320EC, the pictures of the guy standing between the sponsons is incredible how huge that boat is. Alot of the post are older so there are used ones that can be had for many of these boats. I'm not sure about the twin Vees I'm going to give them another look, but I definetly want to see what the Aerocat Out Island is going to sell for. The Calcutta does look similar to the Benchmark, I wonder if it would be risky buying the Benchmark that is forsale.

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Particularly is you are considering used, you may want to consider an Australian cat called the Venturer 36. "Powerboat Reports", unfortunately no longer available, published a comparison of this cat with a trawler and they gave it very favorable reviews.

I generally also heard and read good things about the Benchmark cat and its partialy asymetrical hulls, but have never been on one. Two important things to do when considering any lesser-known cat (above and beyond what you would check in a monohull) are:
1. How does it ride at displacement and planning speed (if a planning cat) when taking seas from a variety of directions? There is a lot of variation in performance in this area. The best cats are really good and the worst ones (like the ones with a very low tunnel) are very bad.
2. What is engine and generator access like for regular maintenance items (eg changing an impeller)? Some cats have skinny hulls with their engines shoe-horned in - a maintenance nightmare. You don't want a headache like that.
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Here's a couple photos of the Ameracat. Ive seen the Calcutta at the Miami boatshow a couple of years ago. Beautiful but huge - 14 ft beam, if I remember, twin Yanmars, but I think available with outboards if desired. Too big and more money than I wanted to spend. But, like everyone says, have to see things in person and take them for a ride.
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^^^^^ Wow.
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Need more pictures of that ameracat! Awsome!
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It looks like the Calcutta 36 is the old Benchmark hull as stated, the Calcutta fit and finsih just looks incredible, but big money. I saw a few benchmark 36's and 33's forsale at good prices, but the 36 is to big and the 33 has just a tiny cuddy space in it. I'm waiting to hear what the Aerocat Out Islands are going to run, and the Renaissance Prowlers another one out of business or switch to a different name are really nice boats with great input from owners past or current. Finding a good one in nice condition could be tough. I'm going to continue to research them and will post anything new I find out.
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Awesome boat Triggerman... Thanks for posting those extra pics for us.
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After seeing more photo's of the Ameracat I'm going to take a closer look at that, I love boats that you can get around the boat with relative ease, it has a ton of fishing room with that lay-out. Ussaully the express OB models weither cats or mono-hulls really eat up your fishing space. Center consoles are idea with OB's but we need a cabin, I looked into some FA boats but in the size range we need to stay in the cabins are extremely small, love the 33 L&H FA with twin diesels as I'm sure most people do, but even used they are just way to much money. The 36 Cats like the Calcutta,Benchmark and the Venturer are beautifull but just to big for us, we want to stay 30-33' range, I don't even think we have slips wide enough to fit the bigger ones. Thanks alot guys for the input it is really helping alot, heading to the AC in water boat show next week and hope to see some nice boats there, I wish more of the Cats were there, ussually just World Cat and GB are there, I think it would pay us to get on a plane visit some places in FL and go to the Miami boatshow to see more of a variety of the cat boats. Whatever we look at we will put thru a major sea trial in not so nice conditions, otherwise I'm not buying a thing. Again thank you. and would love to hear more. Ron
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Is quality a consideration?
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