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Old 06-23-2011, 04:23 PM
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Default 175 ETEC Injector connector

Have a bad injector in my number 2 cyclinder on my port engine. Engines are ETEC 175's. Got a new injector today, came with a two pin connector and a shell for a three pin, of course I have three pin connectors.

How do you get the pins out of these connectors?? I need to move from the installed 2 pin to the three pin??

I know I need a dealer to download the injectors profile files, but in the Keys now and nowbody has the time. Dealers are all to busy and I can't wait a month. So I am instaling the service injector to get the engine running so I can get back home, about a 3 hour ride. Then the dealer can handle it at home.

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Given the cost of an injector and how critical it is to proper function. I'd be very, very reluctant to work on it myself.... I use Seapower in south Dade county and have had great results with them, their number is (305)238-1386.

They just did my #2 injector (E-Tec 90, now approaching 2100 hours in commercial service..) and I'm back up and running. Today we ran 85 miles from Flamingo almost all the way to Lostman's and back. Given the hours I keep and the places we run it's nice to know everything on my motor is done right the first time...
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Well I drove to Miami to buy the injector from Seapower. But that was not the question. I need ro drive back to Naples Monday and no dealers have the time to work on my engine. So I need to do this myself.

So does anybody know how to pull these injector connectors apart?

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There are special tools for the connector, but you might be able to use dental pics and a small electrical tool available at auto supply stores.

First the red insert is removed by using the bent part of a pick, then you carefully insert the flat tool into the pin area to release the retaining clip.

I believe the connectors are called WeatherPak and a sharp auto supply person may know the tools you need.
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Thanks Seahorse, I will give that a try, located a GM Weather Pack pin extraction tool at NAPA. Going to get it now

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Update, the GM Weather pack tool was not needed and most likely would not have worked with this connector. I used a very thin and long 4 inch fine point pick to push the red connector insert out, then used the pick to push the now visible tab away from each pin and removed them easlily. No problem.

Installed the new injector all is good now, engines is running fine and will drive back to Naples and have the dealer take over from here.

Now that Evinrude is not shipping the service injector coefficient files with the new injector, you can no longer fix these engines by yourself or use any marine mechanic. Only Evinrude dealers can download these files from their dealewr website Dealerport.

Not a good move for owners that work on their own engines or non Evinrude dealer mechanics.

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These motors seem to go through injectors.
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Yes, second injector on this motor, only 300 hours. but the replacemnt injector is a new part number, maybe an improved injector?

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On the small 90hp models that I run (I'm on my second one) I've lost two injectors. The first back in 2005 went at 85 hours and was under warranty on my very first E-Tec. The second one on my current motor quit on me at only 2090 hours.... and that was in hard commercial service. Seriously an occasional injector will fail (it's electronic - the failure cuases it to cease functioning at all, you lose that cylinder so it's hard to ignore...). My current motor, now about five years old, never had the slightest injector problem during it's life until two weeks ago.... For anyone with an E-Tec still in warranty I'd be worried about warranty issues unless the injector was replaced by a factory authorized service center (and at almost $500 it sure is nice if it's still in warranty). My current motor is long out of warranty so I'll be paying for the next one if it happens again, as well.

On both occasions I was able to limp on back to the ramp on only two cylinders (once with about 20 miles of Everglades to transit, the most recent about 10 miles at midnight in Biscayne Bay....
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The issue is when the Evinrude dealers are so busy and can't work on your engine for a month, you are on vacation and leaving for home by boat in 2 days, what do you do??

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These motors seem to go through injectors.
I also had injector issues on a '07 250 and a '08 175 E-Tec. It is an easy fix but can be a PITA when you're waiting on a dealer. Thankfully, BRP made some design changes and the new style injectors started showing up on new motors in late '08. The improved design has "E-Tec" embossed on the back cover. AFAIK the new ones have solved the problem and rarely, if ever fail.
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Interestng, both of my injectors that failed had ETEC embossed on the injector, but the part number has changed, a new injector has replaced my original injectors. My motors where manufactured 11/2007.

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