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Old 06-19-2011, 06:28 PM
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23cc, Which is best, 14 lb plow anchor or a danforth? Pros and cons.
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tuff question to answer as more info is required to get a good answer.
- are you planning on dropping the hook at "usual spots" with similar bottom compositions or need an anchor(s) for a variety of bottom types?
- do you have an electric or hydraulic windlass?
- depth of water
- amount of chain willing to carry/use
- are you planning to use for storm anchor too and therefore "upsize" for that factor?

all anchors are compromises with some better than others for certain conditions.
knowing what you are using it for will help to determine which will serve your needs better.
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tuff question to answer as more info is required to get a good answer.
- are you planning on dropping the hook at "usual spots" with similar bottom compositions or need an anchor(s) for a variety of bottom types?
- do you have an electric or hydraulic windlass?
- depth of water
- amount of chain willing to carry/use
- are you planning to use for storm anchor too and therefore "upsize" for that factor?

all anchors are compromises with some better than others for certain conditions.
knowing what you are using it for will help to determine which will serve your needs better.
An anchor that will cover most all types of bottom, anchor to spot fish from a few feet up to 50 feet. Chain would be about 10 feet. We don't have a windlass at this time. Was looking at them yesterday. We don't normally fish in bad weather so a storm anchor would not be planned for. Most of our fishing is from the ICW to near shore reefs.
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Rule-of-thumb is to have length of chain equal to boat length...so with your 23' boat, ten feet of chain is way too short...even before debating which anchor to use...
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I have a $60 16lb galvanized Lewmar claw on my boat and it holds every time. Why buy anything else?
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I have always admired these:

http://www.seaclawanchors.com/

As for the length of the chain portion of the anchor rode, if the boat is used only in shallower depths then the "one foot of chain per one foot of boat length" guideline is seriously overkill. The OP's 10 feet of chain will serve him well in depths up to about 35 feet.

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Rule-of-thumb is to have length of chain equal to boat length...so with your 23' boat, ten feet of chain is way too short...even before debating which anchor to use...
Sorry but for a recreational fisher not venturing far off shore and watching the weather that is just WAY overkill.

10 ft is more then enough for his described usage and boat size.

with no windless, even with an anchor ball he is going to be fighting it the whole darn time.
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Ten feet of chain is fine for your applications. Boat length of chain advisable for offshore conditions beyond what you would likely be boating in.

Either anchor you mentioned will work but it depends more on the bottom type than the boat type. Will you be over sand, mud, rock?
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23cc, Which is best, 14 lb plow anchor or a danforth? Pros and cons.
Well, since the answers are all over the place, I'll weigh in with my opinion.

I would use a boat length of chain or compromise at 20'. It doesn't have to be special heavy G4 chain, galvanized chain from the Home Center will do.

I like the plow over the dansforth, but I have a claw anchor on my boat and it works very well. If I lost it, I would replace it with another claw anchor.
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I ve had 3 boats with Fortress anchors and have liked them.
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Those seaclawanchors work on everything but sand. I had one and got rid of it. I only have 15' of chain on my boat and anchor all the time in 250' with no problem. Get the anchor I mentioned earlier.
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For a 23 foot CC?

Sometimes I wonder if people are reading the OP.

I'd be shocked if some of these anchor suggestions would store easily on his ride, if at all; and I am certain he doesn't have room for 23 feet of chain.

Again, 23 foot CC, ICW and near shore use, keep it simple.

Get a danforth and 10 to 12 feet of stainless steel chain.

Seasense makes a nice stainless steel danforth for 20-25 foot boats.

Fortress FX-7 or 11 would also work, but figure on adding an extra 3 feet of chain with those.
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A Bruce or claw type should cover most all of your needs. Take a look at the vast majority of charter boat captains here in Key West. On any given day, they have to anchor their 23-36ft CC's in a wide variety of bottom from 5-200 feet of water. Most all of them use a Bruce anchor as their regular setup. Combine that with a trip/breakaway system, an anchor ball, and 12-15ft of chain and you'll be good to go.

One foot of chain per foot of boat?!! Without a windlass, that would be insanity. Imagine Trying to haul in 34 feet of chain up and over the crazy high bow of, say, a Yellowfin!! Without banging chain all over the gelcoat.... 12-15 feet is plenty for light tackle boats in most any conditions under 25knots and under 200 feet. Have some spare chain handy to add on if anchoring any deeper.
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I have always admired these:

http://www.seaclawanchors.com/

As for the length of the chain portion of the anchor rode, if the boat is used only in shallower depths then the "one foot of chain per one foot of boat length" guideline is seriously overkill. The OP's 10 feet of chain will serve him well in depths up to about 35 feet.


I have a Sea-Claw anchor and 12 ft of chain on my 23 ft cc. I anchor 40-200 ft and it set the 1st time. Fortress is my back up for the sandbar.
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From my experience with both, the Danforth is a better all round pick than the plow. I've always found the Danforth will pick in much quicker than a Plow particularly in sand
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No windlass, ICW/near inshore, and a 23 foot boat. So the anchor needs to hold in the seabed you commonly encounter, you need to manually handle the anchor and the rode, and it needs to stow safely and where you can access it when needed. Seems that a Danforth, which commonly fold, would be a good choice. The Fortress anchors are light and easier to toss. A once piece claw, plough, bruce, or delta may launch from a roller easily but may or may not be so easy for you to use manually which you need to consider. More chain is always good, but again you need to be able to stow and handle it. If you can manage another 5 feet it would allow the anchor to hold better w/ more horizontal and less vertical tension. The best anchor in the world isn't any use to you if you cannot use it w/ ease, comfort, and safety.
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For a 23 foot CC?

Sometimes I wonder if people are reading the OP.

I'd be shocked if some of these anchor suggestions would store easily on his ride, if at all; and I am certain he doesn't have room for 23 feet of chain.

Again, 23 foot CC, ICW and near shore use, keep it simple.

Get a danforth and 10 to 12 feet of stainless steel chain.

Seasense makes a nice stainless steel danforth for 20-25 foot boats.

Fortress FX-7 or 11 would also work, but figure on adding an extra 3 feet of chain with those.
You are criticizing the other posters and then you suggest stainless steel chain?

What does stainless steel chain on an anchor do besides impress the fish?
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......One foot of chain per foot of boat?!! Without a windlass, that would be insanity. .............
There's chain and then there's chain. I have 30' og 5/16" G4 chain on my boat. That's not what I recommended for his boat. 23' of 1/4" galvanized Home Center chain will help set and hold the anchor and it's not heavy. I had 25' on my previous boat and hauled it by hand many, many times. I'm no Hulk Hogan by any means.
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Wow....what a difference of opinions! You're not anchoring overnight and if and when the anchor doesn't hold the first time, you re-set it, no big deal. Have read a lot about different anchor types and the only thing i can say with certainty is that no anchor type holds in every condition or grabs every time. Danforth is a universally used anchor that stores much easier then the plow or claw. If you want to spend the money the Fortress danforth type, according to tests holds the best - http://www.fortressanchors.com/anchor_tests.html

but as mentioned you need a bit more chain. I carry a small lunch hook and a fortress with only 6 feet of chain and have never had any problems...but then again i am only anchoring in no more then 80-90' at the most and not overnight. All the rules for scope and chain length apply to when you are anchoring for the duration....overnighters, leaving the boat on the hook for extended periods of time or if you are riding out a storm...probably none of which you are going to do...IMO
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I have a 21' foot boat and do not consider a boat length of chain overkill, since I have 20 feet of chain.
Storage wasn't a problem, as 20 feet of chain takes up less space than a basketball. I easily fit the chain and 200' of 1/2 8 plait in my anchor locker.

I have a bow roller, so the claw stows easily. My 110# wife has no issues pulling up the anchor and chain but again, the bow roller makes all of the difference.

I found that for a given anchor, lengthening the chain made it a lot easier to set and more importantly, far superior chafe protection. It was always the first 15-20 feet of rode that suffered the most chafe and if you ever dive on your anchor, you'd be surprised to see some of the weird ways it sets, like wrapped half way around a large boulder, rubbing back and forth.

I also have a cheap danforth knockoff as a second anchor.
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