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Old 04-02-2011, 05:23 PM
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Default 40 ft live aboard cruiser

As some of you know i've been been looking for a bay boat. Also will be looking for a cruiser in the next couple years. I hit 45 last year and retired and the wife is about three years behind me.
After she retires we plan on moving to Florida. We are looking for a liveaboard 40 or a little smaller say 35 ft if we decide to get another home.
What brand would you guys suggest?
Trying to keep it at 200,000 max.for a liveaboard or around 125,000 if we decide to buy a home.
We planned on doing a circumnav in a sailboat but the older I get the less it appeals to me. Short runs to the Bahamas and Bimini in a power boat sound more appealing these days.
Is it possible to make the Caribb from Florida if you took the thorny path in a 35 to 40 ft cruiser or would a trawler suit my needs better for those distances?
Going around the world is a lot less important these days but the wife and I love the Caribb.
I guess it's never to early to start planning for it.
So what do you guys think?

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I know a guy on here that went to Chub in a 23 Dorado. Island hopping in a 40 wouldn't be a problem as long as you know what you are doing.
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My cousin has done the trip to Caribb many times. He buys Bertrams in US takes them to Virgins, Guts them, restores them and sells them out there. Last time he took to Bertram 25's out there with several 55 gallon gas drums aboard. Usually he takes 31s and 37s.

He goes to Miami, Crosses to Bimini to fill up, goes To Berry islands, Spanish Wells, Dunmore, Cat Island, Turks & Caicos, Mathew Town, Samana, San Juan and finally St. Thomas.

He is very social and knows people all over the islands. He visits on the way over. So he gets to sleep in houses with friends and leaves only when there is a weather window.
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Hatteras 40 MYs from early 90s are in that price range and is a nice boat w/ good quality for 1-2 cruising couples. The 40 Nordhavn (trawler) is a lot pricier, the boat in triplenet's photo looks like a Nordhavn. Of course a boat like the Nordhavn will take you anywhere. What you don't want to do, IMHO, is buy a boat that isn't designed for bluewater cruising, i.e. cocktail cruiser chlorox bottle.
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That 40 Nordhavn was asking I think 350k...... Not a bad price for a real Bluewater boat...

Only downside - they are a bit cramped inside....

But man, what a boat !!!!

BTW - I prefer the 55 Nordhavn - but thats a few more $$$
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As some of you know i've been been looking for a bay boat. Also will be looking for a cruiser in the next couple years. I hit 45 last year and retired and the wife is about three years behind me.
After she retires we plan on moving to Florida. We are looking for a liveaboard 40 or a little smaller say 35 ft if we decide to get another home.
What brand would you guys suggest?
Trying to keep it at 200,000 max.for a liveaboard or around 125,000 if we decide to buy a home.
We planned on doing a circumnav in a sailboat but the older I get the less it appeals to me. Short runs to the Bahamas and Bimini in a power boat sound more appealing these days.
Is it possible to make the Caribb from Florida if you took the thorny path in a 35 to 40 ft cruiser or would a trawler suit my needs better for those distances?
Going around the world is a lot less important these days but the wife and I love the Caribb.
I guess it's never to early to start planning for it.
So what do you guys think?
Ok, let me get this straight, you retired at 45, and are asking for advise, please advise us how you did that
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Defever isnt bad either - more in your price range

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Im still stuck on the retired at 45. Well done!
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42 and 48 Hatteras LRC's or the 49 Defever RPH listed above will all suit your needs.
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Retired at age 45?

Either real smart or gubmint job after putting in 20 "hard" years.

That's my guess.
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I would also check out a Kady Krogen as well... The newer ones are quite a bit of $$$ but some of the older 42's are in your range.

http://m.yachtworld.com/mobile/boats.../United-States

Very salty looking boats, and a blue water cruiser for sure
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Retired at age 45?

Either real smart or gubmint job after putting in 20 "hard" years.

That's my guess.
Nah ....you couldnt get me to work for the gubbermint for any reason.
The wife and I have been married for 20 years and have invested like crazy.(It doesnt hurt that the wife has worked for a very successful banker/investor for 25 years)
And on top of that we're D.I.N.K.s. So no college fund to worry about.
I always laughed when my mother would ask for grand kids. I told her my brother would have to fill that need.
All in all I would say,a lttle luck and a lot of hard work has allowed us to retire early.
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Im still stuck on the retired at 45. Well done!
Thanks Eric.
We did without in a lot things over the years to make this possible.
Would I do it again? You bet!!
Keep your eye on the prize as they say.
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Ok, let me get this straight, you retired at 45, and are asking for advise, please advise us how you did that
Of course I am asking you guys for advice on boats,you know a hell of a lot about em then I do.
But I probably wouldnt come to you for investment ideas.
The wife has the inside track for that.
I was blessed with a smart wife,what can I say?
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And thanks for all the advice guys...as you can tell we plan waaaayy into the future. And this info helps shorten that process quite a bit.
God I love the internet!!!!
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My cousin has done the trip to Caribb many times. He buys Bertrams in US takes them to Virgins, Guts them, restores them and sells them out there. Last time he took to Bertram 25's out there with several 55 gallon gas drums aboard. Usually he takes 31s and 37s.

He goes to Miami, Crosses to Bimini to fill up, goes To Berry islands, Spanish Wells, Dunmore, Cat Island, Turks & Caicos, Mathew Town, Samana, San Juan and finally St. Thomas.

He is very social and knows people all over the islands. He visits on the way over. So he gets to sleep in houses with friends and leaves only when there is a weather window.
So he does take the thorny path......I was wondering about that. In a sailboat i've heard it can be brutal.
Love to sail but dont like to be at the mercy of the wind. On top of that it takes to damn long to get there.
Which is why we're leaning towards a power boat. On the plus side for sail boats...they can take a serious pounding off shore as long as the crew can handle it(most sailers need rescuing long before the boat does)But if you can run from the storm and of course pick a good weather window to begin with it seams to me a power boat in good repair would be your better option.
Although free power from the wind has allways sounded good.Just a little to slow for my taste.
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If you can afford the fuel and repairs go with power..... I like the idea of sailing - but the reality is much different... and I like to drag bait on the way....

That said, I may just end up on a blow boat one day - 9 more years till the kids are out...
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If you can afford the fuel and repairs go with power..... I like the idea of sailing - but the reality is much different... and I like to drag bait on the way....

That said, I may just end up on a blow boat one day - 9 more years till the kids are out...
Having little ones will definitely add a few years till retirement. But hell i've got a niece to spoil and send home. All the benefits without the child rearing part
A sail boat may still be in our future one day,who knows?
Sailing isnt exactly cheap when you consider you have sails and a motor to contend with.
And to pick up a sail boat that I would consider is at least 250K.
Return on investment isnt great on ethier kind of boat.....well actually it's a net loss
Yeah boating is a lousy investment any way you look at it.
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