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Going through Captain Dan's thread reminds me of the problem I need to solve before I start live baitng the sails off Stuart this winter. I need to come up with a way to add 'Rod Riggers' or something like that. My SeaPro like most bay boats has no gunnel to speak of for flush mount rod holders. My boat has only two aft, and no other good spot to add any that I can come up with. I refuse to clamp some big black plastic P.O.S. looking thing on the rails to use like 'Rod Riggers', just not happening. I saw these from C.E. Smith, wouldn't be too bad if I could clamp these to the underside of the rail, they could run parallel to the rail when not in use. At least they'd be streamlined and clean looking. The clamp swivels 360 degrees in 10 degree increments... When I need to use them, it'd be sweet to be able to swivel them out and put a rod in them. Here's a pict of the interior of the boat (taken when she was delivered), I'm looking for suggestions..
I believe that you will find that they do not swivel after having been securred. They have little teeth on the rod holder and the bracket so you can move then in a 360 degree arc and get them in the position you want, and then you tighten down a lock screw and then secure them to the rail with the clamp. Sorry about that.
I installed 4 smith rod holders on my t-top this week, and like them very much. The ones I got only mount vertical or horizontal and after they are installed you basically have to take them apart to change the angle. This is not something I would want to do on the water, especially on the gunnels where you are thinking of mounting them. You would have to juggle the two parts of the rod holder, the two pieces of the inner liner(rail insulator), and the four allen bolts holding them together. If you adjust them before you launch I dont think they would stick out far enough to be in the way of anything, and this looks like one of the few options you have for adding holders.
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As the guys said above, these are pretty much designed to be mounted and left, not moved on a whim. Consider mounting them then getting a set of "Out Riggers" to get the rod angles you are looking for.
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If you look real close at the picture you can see theres a screw.. I need to hold one in my hand, maybe theres a way to modify the set screw, like make it a lever.... Maybe get a piece of stainless rod, then bend, thread it etc to make it a lever..
Somebody here will see what I'm missing.. ;?
So far this is about the only thing I have come up with.
I have room if you look aft of the cushions for one of these (but not a flush mount rod holder)... They come in white, probably will work, and I can store the rod holder when not in use. Just don't like that cheap plastic look I guess. All those plastic rod holders on the console are now stainless..
These work great, but they will droop with heavy tackle over time in choppy conditions if you do not add a stabilizing screw. Simply mount them as you are aleady thinking to the side rails, forward of the console so that they are in your line of sight when sitting at the console, then drill a 5/32" hole through the bottom of the bracket and one sice ofthe the rail so that you can screw in a 3/16 sceet metal screw to make shure she wont droop with the 114's or Internationals.
Having them in you line of sight lets you detect when you pick up a little extra weight (grass) or when the tips stops a jiggling when the lure runs afoul.
I believe the posters above are correct it's set and forget. I mounted a couple of rod holders to the bow rail of the Edgewater dual console that I had. After a month you will not notice that they are there. Don't worry about running them parallel when not in use.
It tells people you are always ready for big game.
Not a truly elegant solution (mount outside the handrail), but Dot-Line (Mengo Industries, click [red]here[/red] ) makes these stainless steel "deck-mounted" rod holders:
They also make these stainless ones that you can adjust while on the water.
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Reel... The 2nd picture looks interesting, I could have them on just when I want and off otherwise. I'll check'em out... The 1st one is waaaay ugly, wouldn't be bad on a T top or cabin roof...
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Mike
"Ram" the makers of the movable FF and GPS mounts makes a nice looking aluminum pole holder mounted to one of there universal joints. It is ulitimately adjustable and can be moved while on the water. The Mid-west salmon fishery also has many different styles of adjustable rod holder that would work for you, look at Big Jon for one. A caution though is that some of these holders are not meant for the strain that offshore fishing puts on the gear.
Look into big jon rod holders. They are stout enough for a saltwater application and adjustable without tools. I would look at vectors above big jons though. www.vectortek.com
Afishinado,
Another option is to install a leanong post. I have four extremely functional rod holders on the back of mine. I would think that the two outside holders would function well for your pourpose. Even if you do not want a leaning post you may be able to mount a pair of rod holders on the back of your swing back chair.
Also look at Pursuit Sports rod holders. They have a rail mount that would work for you, or a removable base mount. See http://www.pursuitsports.com/index.html
If you're OK with a removable solution, why not use the 2 existing rod holders for uprights, with a bar or track system across the stern of the boat. Look at the salmon and striper trollers for a $hitload of options on that idea. I would also want some kind of supporting brace unless your rodholders are rock solid in the gunnels.
I truly respect Reel Rascals replies 99.9% of the time, but would caution you on Dot line equipment as being non heavy duty. Very economical, but I assume you are using 30-50 lb tackle for sails, and this calls for heavier stuff like you are currently quoting or maybe Lee.
it's the middle of the night and i am tired, so i may not be too lucid, but what about the rod holders that have a flat bracket that you mount on (strangely enough) a flat surface, about 3" x 3", on a vertical surface.....the rod holder itself is perhaps well descibed as looking like a piece of pipe that has had one end flattened in a vise (so it fits in the bracket), and bent about 30 degrees.......perko i know makes them but they are pretty expensive from them, but there are at least 2 other manufacturers that i have seen...i have a couple that arer mounted on my cc, but they will fit on the gunwale as well as long as you have the flat vertical surface
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Never having fished for sailfish I am just taking a shot in the dark here.
But, find yourself a T-top manufacturer and have them bend a piece of either stainless or aluminum tubing that would fit between and into your two aft rod holders forming an arch of sorts. On this you can mount all the rod holders you would want, in addition you can customize the height of the arch to your liking and it is removable when not in use. The only downside is having the transom blocked.
Just a thought.
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Those rod holders are quite sturdy. I know several great lakes charter captains that run those. I even docked next to a guy that mounted those to a t-top and threw 15' outrigger poles in them. He pulled leadcore at about 2 - 2.5 mph.
I think a vector or big jon may be beefier though. Those rod holders you pictured are dotlines I think. They have an inderent slop you can never seem to get out of them.
Rod Holder/Rod Rigger suggestions Please 
