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Old 03-25-2011, 11:48 AM
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<First off, I did search, but all I found were a bunch of unrelated posts>

I need to get some new fenders, and the ones that seem to be of a slightly better quality aren't that cheap, so I'm hoping to get some advice before spending money on something that won't work well for me...

First off - What do you guys like? Thru-holed or 'standard' (assuming tube-shaped)? Looking at something like the Taylor Big B or Super Gard lines, which seem to sell for $80-100 each in the size that I think I need.

Also, w/ my old 23' trailer boat, I had 4 'Stow-Away' inflatable fenders, which all fit into a bag w/ a hand pump that was probably <1sq. ft, so no problem. My new-to me boat will be in a marina that's a bit rough, with a ferry dock on the next pier. I have a pretty wide slip, so I can tie the boat so it floats in the middle, but I'll probably want to have 6 fenders out (3 per side) when I leave the boat (just in case). But, what to do with all of them when I'm under way? 6 inflated 10"x30" fenders take up a good deal of space. Do you deflate and keep a pump on board? Leave them (or at least some) at the slip, taking 2-3 in case I need to tie up somewhere else? (Note the slip doesn't have pilings for me to leave them tied to, so I would probably have to get a dock box or something in this case...)

The marina also said I could add dock bumpers, which seem to be about $35/ea., so maybe I can add 3-4 per side and just get 4 fenders to keep on the boat.
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I like standard.
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West Marine often has sales of fenders in groups of two or three. I just bought a pair of Taylor 8" fenders for $80.00. That's a little more than half the regular price.

Fenders hanging from your boat will move with the boat as current and wind move it. Dock bumpers will not and they will scratch the boat.

Fender covers help protect the boat from the rubbing of fenders. Standard fenders do not deflate.

For fiction: "Fenders" hang from a boat, "bumpers are installed on a dock. "Buoys" are neither, they are used in the water to mark channels, obstructions, etc.
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You might also consider "Dock Wheels at the inside corners of the slip--depending on access.

There are fender holders which fit on bow railings, or other railings. I have a lazarette where I keep my fenders on the 27 foot boat. The 18 foot bay boat, smaller fenders, kept under the casting platform. I also have large inflatable fenders (Hypalon) and they are only for raft ups.
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Thanks for the replies. Just got back from WM and picked up 4 of the Taylor Super Gard fenders. May get 2 more once I get the boat in the slip if I think I really need them.

Thataway - yeah, I need to think about the back, too, but the corners aren't what worry me. The slip is a 'double wide' end slip. Most people in my marina will have slip-mates (with access to 1/2 of the slip, or an 'L'), but I'll actually have both sides. One side is the main dock, with a finger dock on the other side. However, right in the middle in the back of the slip is a piling that is surrounded with a 'box' made of 2x6s that sticks out into the middle of the slip about 2'. That thing makes me a bit nervous, with my outboards hanging out back there. Definitely gonna have to have some good spring lines, and I hope I'll be able to set a good spring line on the finger side (which is shorter). Still would like a little protection back there around that box, though, as well as the corner of the finger pier...
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Don't go "cheap" on fenders. Think of cost as a percentage of investment of complete boat. Your fenders are protecting that investment.
As to size, I like the largest I can practically carry and store. I always carry them with me. As Thataway said, baskets on the bow rail will carry 4 of them, with 2 or more stowed "somewhere".
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Get you some nice fender covers made
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I almost never go 'cheap' on anything... I'd rather spend 3x the money once up front on a product than have to buy replacements at a cheaper price, or have to 'upgrade' in the future because there was some feature in the the cheaper option that I didn't think I wanted, but found out otherwise. That pretty much goes from anything from keychains to vehicles.

The guy at WM said the Super Gards are the most popular, tougher than most of the others, and they have a lifetime warranty, so I'll never have to buy a replacement. I got 4 large (10x30 or so) for my 33' boat. I may still get a pair of the XL size to use mid-ship on either side.

With the dock at the marina being pretty low (~18" off the water), I plan on hanging 'em horizontal just above the water line. Is there anything I should do to prevent them from rolling up onto the dock, or will the angle of the hull help force them down?

Does anyone use the round fenders? Say them at WM, but don't see them used too often except on much larger boats.
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Go round, they give you more or wider protection.
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I bought a whole load of reasonably priced fenders from bass Pro, but changed the lines. For some reason they use a braided polypropylene and the sunlight down here reduced it to dust in four months. But the fenders have stood up to continual use and abuse well.
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Look for fenders approved by the Bayliner Owners Club.

Everytime I see a Bayliner it has multiple fenders deployed.
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Look for fenders approved by the Bayliner Owners Club.

Everytime I see a Bayliner it has multiple fenders deployed.
So are you suggesting the use of only one?
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Look for fenders approved by the Bayliner Owners Club.

Everytime I see a Bayliner it has multiple fenders deployed.
Those are pfds for the boat.
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Look for fenders approved by the Bayliner Owners Club.

Everytime I see a Bayliner it has multiple fenders deployed.
Bayliner doesn't approve fenders...only bumpers
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I bought one of those wire racks that will hold 8 or 10 inch wide fenders. That way, I can keep two on the boat, and the others stay at the slip. I follow the rule of one inch of fender thickness per foot of boat beam.
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Look for fenders approved by the Bayliner Owners Club.

Everytime I see a Bayliner it has multiple fenders deployed.
I might just be cranky, but do we really need to rag on the boat brands of others? When I see someone underway with their fenders still out, I try and tell them rather than just make fun of them.
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... I follow the rule of one inch of fender thickness per foot of boat beam.
I wish I knew about that rule... Luckily, the ones I bought just happen to conform to that formula!
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........... The guy at WM said the Super Gards are the most popular, tougher than most of the others, and they have a lifetime warranty, so I'll never have to buy a replacement.
Read the warranty. Warranted against cracking or bursting. Not against leaking. That's why I had to buy replacements. I didn't actually try to get them replaced under warranty, but they have not cracked or burst, they just won't hold air for very long.
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