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Old 03-03-2011, 05:28 AM
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Default Verado 300 v Yamaha 300 - Purchase & Maintenance?

Need some input on Verado's maintenance and any issues encountered. I have heard that Verado has power head issues and lower unit problems. Also, that the maintenance is very expensive compared to the Yamaha.

I would like input to assist in my purchase.

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I have not heard of any Verado Powerhead issue's. Lower Units are fine. Usually LU's tend to fail on triple & quad engine boats due to the high rate of speed they are traveling, barking, etc...

Verado is likely to be the easiest to maintain. Oil, Oil Filter, LU Oil Every 100hrs just like every other outboard out there. Some Stealerships charge mor for a verado saying that its MORE WORK becuase its Supercharged, etc... etc.... Straight 6 Powerplants are proven to be reliable. Ex. Cummins
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Check out VeradoClub.com for a ton of straight talk about Verados.
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One post? Hopefully not set up to bash.

The only thing that is more expensive are the stupid Merc spark plugs. They are outrageously priced, BTW if anyone know if there is an equivalent NGk or other please post.
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Twin 300 Verados. After going through 7 lower units in 950 hours Mercury has now replaced mine with their newly developed lowers. Mercury has done their homework on them.


And 1 month later!!!!!!!!!

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Not a good ending to the story. My 2nd trip out with the new lowers and the port motor got stuck in forward. Pulled up to the dock put it in reverse and the boat went faster. Sort of like hitting your brakes and speeding up. I now know how Toyota owners felt. No one was hurt, but I hit the dock hard. Merc agreed to fix the motor problem and the damage to my boat. My dealer recommended replacing both motors and Merc told him to pound sand. I have had nothing but problems with the motors since around 300 hours and merc could care less. I will never buy Mercs again.


3 Verado’s…… 3 Powers replaced…
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1295 Hours Since New , 500 Hrs on Port and Center Power Heads ,Less than 100 Hrs on Starboard Power Head,Less than 100 Hrs on Center lower unit


It is your call to believe all the VCG (Verado Cover-up Group) that everything is great in Verado land…
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I would defer any response to that post to Glenn.
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I've been running them for 800 hours now triples on a 40' Seahunter and I just replaced my first powerhead and never a lower unit. I would definitely buy them again if 300hp was going to be size motor I needed.
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I can say I just did a full service on my new to me 250 Verado and it cost me a little less than the same service I did on my previous F250 Yamaha.
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Isn't there another thread right now about a recall for Verado corrosion issues?

So where are all the Yammy owners crying the blues? Seems like there has been little to no complaints from the new 4.2 motors.

For the total number of motors Yamaha sells, they have excellent reliability.

If our deal works out on the new Yellowfin, it will have 300 Yamaha 4.2's...
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And 1 month later!!!!!!!!!



3 Verado’s…… 3 Powers replaced…


It is your call to believe all the VCG (Verado Cover-up Group) that everything is great in Verado land…
Your second quote is from my add when I sold my 2006 genI 275's. They were run hard buy the previous owner of my boat and the 100 hours on them were put on there from me with no problems. I now have brand new 300 Verados with over a hundred hours and no issue with these either.

I would buy more Verados and the new 300 Yamahas look great but one thing is for sure I would not touch a Suzuki simply because there is zero factory support.

To the original poster base your decision on the shop that is going to be servicing your motor. If there is a shop you like that only works on Yamahas then buy them or vise versa.
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The only thing that is more expensive are the stupid Merc spark plugs. They are outrageously priced, BTW if anyone know if there is an equivalent NGk or other please post.
Google: Speed & Custom Marine. They are located in Quincy, FL. $9 a Plug! Same Exact Merc Plug.
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I dont have any experience with the Yamaha other then what I've read here regarding some corrosion issues on the F225's etc. Having said that, the F300 is a "New" motor and there maybe some issues to follow with a 1st year model?

The 300 Verado has been out longer and has proven to be reliable and powerful. It can run on reg fuel also. Mercury owns the Market right now. All the saltwater fishing shows run Verado's from what I've seen and I'm seeing more Verados on the water then Yamaha in my area.

Both are good but you should check dealer support before making your final choice. Also check on parts prices and availability. You might find that Merc parts are cheaper? Verado Club has loads of great info as well as low cost parts...My 2005 Verado 275 (Gen 1) has been flawless....Good luck with your choice.
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All motors suck. All 4 strokes are too heavy and expensive and all 2 strokes are too oily and gay.

Now that we've got that out of the way, the new F300, for whatever reason is quite a lot louder underway than other Yamahas.

I have not heard of consistent p/h of l/u problems on the V300; in fact, they're quite popular.
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The real problem with Verado's is the balsa wood coring
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F300's are not loud at all. In fact they sound quieter than the twin F150's I came from and shifting is silent.

F300's do not need premium-the "preferred" fuel is 89. Verado is 92 for max power but compatible with 87.

So far my F300's have been strong and flawless (fingers crossed).

I would not have been opposed to either plant.
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Thanks for the info.

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600+hours on 2 Verados and 600+hours on 1 F250. The F250 is on powerhead #2 (snapped crank shaft and my motor was 1 of 3 in for the same problem - bad casting they said). Both about the same for 100hr service BUT my mechanic is a Merc shop and for that alone I prefer the Verados. Shifting and power steering I prefer the Vs. And the 2 Vs are quieter than 1 F250. My Vs are gen1 too...the only issue I had was a float getting stuck which was the result of horrible shaking of the motor when I threw a blade at about 35mph. Going from a 3 blade to a 2 blade suddenly causes a racket (no, I hit nothing, it happens). Sorry, no clue on the Yamaha F300 but if given the choice I'd do Verados again, depending on the boat and where you can get service.
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Thanks for the input. It's a difficult choice, but agree with several that engine service center is very important. Making decision tomorrow.
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