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Old 02-19-2011, 08:57 AM
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Looking for some information on the above boats. I have been looking for a flats boat, and I went to the Miami Boat Show yesterday, I looked at the Egret 189, and the Ranger Ghost 184. My friend suggested that I go to THT web site and look for some information and experiences that members have had with each. I found a lot of good information on THT, but did not see anything on the 2011 Ghost. Both boats are in the same general price range (new)

I have not read a single bad thing about the Egret 189. So I am curious if anybody has had a bad experience with that boat. I was also curious if the boat is to difficult to pole due to the high entry on the boat.

I have read that there may be porpoising issues with the Ghost 184, but most of that seemed to be about the older Ghost 183. Did Ranger fix the problem?

I will sea trial both, just looking for some info before doing so.
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I've heard nothing bad about the Egrets, all have been extremely positive. You will get a lot more feedback on the Egret on the FS Forums.

You should also consider the Action Craft 1890. I think the Action Craft and Egret are two of the best flats boats there are.

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The egret 189 is probaly the best in class flats boat out there. The price of a new Egret is tops in class as well.
I like the Action Craft 1890 TE flats boat but it is no where near the Egret in fit and finish, speed and ride.
I can not give you any info on the Ghost never been on one. I would imagine it is built like all Rangers tough as nails and heavy compared to the above.
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I have a 2002 Carbon Kevlar Egret, one of the last Florida built boats. I have owned a Hewes Light Tackle, a 22 foot Pathfinder and now this Egret. The construction of an Egret is hard to beat, they are very solid boats. It can be poled OK, but not as well as the Egret 16. An Egret 18 excels as a back country, flats and some light off shore duties. It handles rough water as good if not better than my 2002 Pathfinder. The storage on Egrets is unbelievable, I can pack all the gear needed for two people on a three day camping trip in the hatches and have nothing on the deck. My one complaint with the 18 Egret is there is no anchor locker, you store the anchor in a very large front hatch. With a 175 motor you will see speeds between 55 and 60 depending on load and prop.
The new owner of Egret is building these boats lighter than the original owner and makes an excellent product, plus he is a semi custom builder, if you want something done different he will do it. Finally, the warranty and customer service is excellent. Frank, the current owner, takes pride in each boat he delivers and will stand behind them 100%. I don't have any experience on the 184 Ranger so cannot make a comparison for you.

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I really appreciate the input. I am basically looking for a boat that I can use to pole some flats, do some back country, fish the port for snook and tarpon, maybe on a flat day go offshore (least important to me), but I do love bass fishing and want the ability to put it in loxahatchee, holiday park, and lake okeechobee. I am not looking for a truly technical flats boat that can fish in 6", as i do not believe that will meet my other needs. I look forward to testing both and see what comes in with the most for the best price. Again thanks for the input.
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The egret 189 is probaly the best in class flats boat out there. The price of a new Egret is tops in class as well.
I like the Action Craft 1890 TE flats boat but it is no where near the Egret in fit and finish, speed and ride.
I can not give you any info on the Ghost never been on one. I would imagine it is built like all Rangers tough as nails and heavy compared to the above.
The fit and finish I would consider the same, wiring, plumbing, etc...Please elaborate on why you believe the fit and finish to be better on the Egret?

Actually the speed with the same power is very comparable as well. I would give the edge to the AC. Max power for the Egret is 175hp for the AC 200hp. With the 175 WOT the AC1890 is a 58-61mph all day long, with a 200hp the AC1890 is a 63-66mph all day long.

Ride I would give the edge to the Egret with it's deeper entry.

But overall value I would give to the AC for the $$$. I don't see the benefits of spending an extra ~$10k for the Egret. But if you have the dough ($$) that wouldn't be a concern.
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I have owned a number of "Flats Boats" over these many years. I am a "member" in a cabin located on a spoil bank island in Baffin Bay (TEXAS) and have the vicarious experience of owning many other boats because of my close relationship with my fellow cabin members who are mostly related.........son, cousin, uncle.........

If it will not pole in 5-8 inches and get up in 10 inches it is a Bay boat not a flats boat.

I just sold my most recent boat and I am also in the market for a new flats boat. With an experienced eye I have taken a very close look at ever flats boat out there. I have pretty much settled on the following;
Maverick HPX-7
Hells -Bay Waterman
East Cape Lostman
These boats will cost about $35,000 to $40,000 tricked out with 740s, Power Pole, jack plate etc................... each will float in 5", get up in 10" and pole streight as an arrow..................No one fishes where I fish and no one goes where I go and 25 fish in the morning on a fly in the salt is usual.......................
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I really appreciate the input. I am basically looking for a boat that I can use to pole some flats, do some back country, fish the port for snook and tarpon, maybe on a flat day go offshore (least important to me), but I do love bass fishing and want the ability to put it in loxahatchee, holiday park, and lake okeechobee. I am not looking for a truly technical flats boat that can fish in 6", as i do not believe that will meet my other needs. I look forward to testing both and see what comes in with the most for the best price. Again thanks for the input.
I do basically the same type of fishing that you do so I have a question for you. Why not look at an 18 - 20 CC with a modified V? Much better for going offshore since the freeboard is higher. better for fishing the inlets, I fish both Haulover and Port Everglades for snook myself. I fish Flamingo and have never been in a situation where I could not get where i wanted to go because the boat draws to much water. just my .02 of course
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Any ghost is not in the same class as any Egret. You are comparing a production boat to a custom builder, whatever more you pay for an Egret today will come back to you 3 fold in the boats longevity and resale.

I have a 2010 AC 1890 with a 200 hpidi. Can't say enough good about the boat, I have also fished on a Egret and they are outstanding. If I was looking again today, it would come down to the AC or the
Egret. The egret has a better rough water ride, when I say rough water I mean inlets and heavy 2' river chop. They both ar outstanding in normal 1'-2' river chop, they Floyd over it.. As for fit and finish, they are both outstanding and equal in that area.
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I do basically the same type of fishing that you do so I have a question for you. Why not look at an 18 - 20 CC with a modified V? Much better for going offshore since the freeboard is higher. better for fishing the inlets, I fish both Haulover and Port Everglades for snook myself. I fish Flamingo and have never been in a situation where I could not get where i wanted to go because the boat draws to much water. just my .02 of course
Not really interested in a cc. Mounting a trolling motor would be a PITA, and the trolling motor is important for the freshwater stuff that I like. I do want the casting deck that the others provide as well.
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A ranger or AC vs Egret? That is sort of like comparing a Toyota to an Aston Martin.
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Picarron you guys in Texas fish in spit and run in sweat.
The rest of us fish in 12" of water and need 18" to get up.
That is why you guys run sheets of plywood with engines attached to them.
The Action Craft is a nice boat and is built in my backyard or was, not sure anymore. They have been around for a long time. A far as fit and finish, check the wiring on the A/C versus Egret. The ride is no comparison, period. If you say anything different you have never been on a Egret.

As far as what I would buy than the Action Craft or Maverick/Hewes 18 would be my choice because there is no way I would spend that kind of coin on a (Egret) flats boat or if you live in Texas bay boat.

To the OP, if you are looking for a do everything boat from bassin to perfect day run offshore to backcountry the Egret 18, A/C 1890, Maverick/Hewes Redfisher 18 will fit the bill. There are alot of boats out there that will fit your needs and not break the bank. Half the fun is finding the right boat for you.
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Great input here. I still haven't heard a single negative thing about the Egret. I get the feeling that it is top of the class. Lots of positives about the AC's as well.
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Also give the ECC Vantage a looksie. http://www.eastcapeskiffs.com/gray-v...-with-115-merc

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A friend of mine and THT member has one foe sale. He also does great custom electronic installations if you want something added. Here is a link to his ad on the Florida Sportsman site http://boatstore.floridasportsman.co...lat&1292891340
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Go Egret, it is a great boat. Rangers are okay, but resale will kill you on them.
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Also give the ECC Vantage a looksie. http://www.eastcapeskiffs.com/gray-v...-with-115-merc

That is a nice looking boat. I don't know anything about them though. Know anybody that has one?
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That is a nice looking boat. I don't know anything about them though. Know anybody that has one?
Yes there is a member here by the name of MitiziNate, send him a PM and he would probably answer any of your questions. He's a real helpful guy. He is mostly on the FS Forums and his name there is "Nate". He has an entire build thread there. Also the guys at ECC are very approachable to answer any questions and to give tours of their plant. Checkout their website and facebook page. They do some amazing stuff.

Here's a pic of his boat and video:



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Im here. No longer mitzi nate though.
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Hey nmaz, where are you located? Im on the west coast of fl but will be in stuart march 11-15 with my boat.
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