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Old 10-29-2004, 12:12 PM
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Default UPDATE: Rip-off at Gundlach's marina / Gus Boat repair in Palm Beach County

Some of you might remember my saga last spring of being ripped off by a boat service center, Gus Boat, based at Gundlach's marina in Lantana (Palm Beach County), Deerfield Beach and apparently elsewhere in South Florida.

In short (I can't seem to find the message threads), I gave the in-house but separately owned service facility my boat (very low hours 115 Johnson) with an overheating problem. Instead of doing what everyone here called for, the mechanic insisted I needed rebuilt carburetors, a water filter system, spark plugs, etc. It cost me close to $800.

Simultaneously, I asked advice from you all and almost everyone insisted that my impellor must be replaced, or perhaps the entire water pump, etc. No work was done regarding the overheating, despite my questions to the mechanic. But apparently my questions did convince him that I was onto his scam.

I paid the bill by credit card (a couple of weeks late), and thought all was well. Then the shop called and said I had to pay with cash. The mechanic/owner said he did not want to give me the chance to dispute the bill if he accepted my credit card. However, the card had already been charged. I demanded the boat. He would not release it on a Friday. On Monday I showed up with the Lantana Police, who instead of getting me back my paid-for property, allowed the owner to credit back my credit card. The Gus owner insisted I go and get cash to pay the bill.

It was either bite the bullet or pay a lawyer. I relented, got the cash and paid the bill. The engine does not run as well as it did before all the carburetion work was done, but it's useable.

But since then, I have gotten nothing but nasty looks and crummy treatment from the shop workers and marina. The people at Gundlach's were never really friendly from the start.

Skip forward to present time ...

I haven't used the boat since well before the hurricanes. Gundlach's (in addition to cutting back on services such as washing of the boats when they are removed fro the water) closes early and has raised its rates by around 50 percent or so. My boat has scratches on its side because the workers don't use the bumpers properly and the boat is filthy with what is apparently diesel soot. Grunge from boats stored above mine constantly drips down onto my boat. The final straw was a torn off depth finder sounding unit (which was fine the last time I left the boat for pickup).

Yesterday, my father and I paid the bill and told the marina we were leaving for good. They put the boat in the water, but the battery was dead. Off of a sudden, the jumper box was unavailable. I asked several times and one of the marina workers brought it out.

I just wanted to get the hell out of there, forever, but this guy had to start in on me.

"Things would be a lot easier if you weren't talking she&t on the internet," he said as I crouched in the stern trying to hook up the terminal wires. I questioned his comment and he repeated it, apparently saying something about me slandering them. He was passing on a message from Gus Boat.

I explained to him that the Gus Boat owner had, several months ago, shaken my hand in an apparent attempt to bury the hatchet. I was angry and asked this storage facility fork lift driver what business my dispute was of his and whether he thought his comments were professional and appropriate to make to a customer.

He continued to berate me. I figured I needed to get out of there and went to connect the positive terminal. Just then, the worker (who was on the dock) yanked the unit away snapping the wires out of my hands and against my chest. He walked away, happily yelling something about me going and buying a new battery.

A couple of customers and other workers witnessed this.

I was furious. I went to the Gundlach's office, where the lady at the desk said the manager was not in and the guy who berated me was in charge. I asked her whether his actions were professional and appropriate. She would not get involved. I have heard the place was run in a much more friendly manner when the Gundlach family owned it.

As I went to leave, the nasty guy came out again, demanding that I "get down there" if I wanted to jump the battery. I told him he wasn't going to order me around and we met chest to chest. If it weren't for my father stepping in to break us up, the forklift driver would have found his butt in the Intracoastal with some broken teeth.

Hours later, after finding that a typical 200- to 300-amp jumper box would not start the engine and trying two different car batteries, I got the boat home to the Lake Worth ramp and home. Oh yeah, the marine patrol stopped me and gave me a warning for having an expired registration sticker (I have it at home). A ticket would have been a lovely nightcap to a horrible day.

In conclusion folks, I can only warn everyone to stay far, far away from the nasty, expensive, unprofessional, goonish, lazy, uncaring, boat-damaging, overall crummy people at Gundlach's marina and the adjacent Gus Boat repair and sales facility off U.S. 1 (where the road forks near Lake Worth) in Lantana.

Do yourselves a favor and just say no to these poor excuses for human beings.
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Old 10-29-2004, 12:48 PM
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Just a throught. Maybe they have another agenda for the property. Raise the prices and get what they can while running off the customers.
Then sell the property to some Real Estate Tycoons to build Condo's on. Just a throught.
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Old 10-29-2004, 12:52 PM
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Could be. There are $700,000 and higher condos going in right next door. Palm Beach County is losing more and more waterfront recreational space all the time.

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http://thehulltruth.net/forums/threa...sts=34#M303089

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Old 11-01-2004, 05:45 PM
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I started similar threads on other message boards here and elsewhere. The threads are all generating interesting comments.

Here they are:

Florida Sportsman Boating
http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum....70382

Florida Sportsman South Florida
http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum....70383

Florida Sportsman Southeast Florida
http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum....70380

The Hull Truth
http://thehulltruth.net/forums...sts=4

Here is the contact information, as requested by some of the readers, for Gundlach's marina and Gus Boat:

Gundlach's
870 N Federal Highway
Lantana, FL 33462
Tel: 561-582-4422
Fax: 561-547-8600

Gus Boats
870 North Federal Highway
Lake Worth, FL 33460
561-547-1113


Apparently, they are aware of the power of this message board.
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Old 11-01-2004, 06:32 PM
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I have heard of other unsatisfied customers. I avoid them at all costs. I don't even like going there to go out on other people's boats. Your story does not surprise me. -T
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Bmarky - just my 2 cents.. i keep my boat at Gundlachs, They treat me and my son just great. Both Lift operators Bobby, and Rob, are always helpful and as quick as makes good sence to get my boat off the lift and in the water. Gordon the Harbormaster has treated me good. I have looked at Gateway Marina, and Palm Beach Marina to the south of Gundlachs , and , as you know both are closer to the inlet, but Gundlachs still has the feel of comfort for me. I realize that GUS Marine Repair has a repuatation that varies , but you always need to gauge your trust , and if your not comfortable with the look and feel ,,you have someone come in and do the repair or maint. on your boat..My Honda dealer charges me only $50 extra to come to Gundlachs and do oil changes and tune ups , ETC ... By the way ,,johnny the dock mate is very helpful and always helps load our boat you know,, cooler, poles, tackle boxes , etc,, launch from the floating docks, and is there to help us dock when we return.. Gundlachs has been a postive experiance for me. Sorry to hear of your bad experaince. I dont doubt your experiance , but simply wanted to comment positively for the folks at gundlachs.
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Old 11-03-2004, 02:45 PM
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I am happy that you are happy there. It is a nice looking place and relatively close to the Boynton Inlet. The prices used to be good.

I found the Gundlach's service to be adequate at first (summer of 2003), but it became continually worse.

The final straw was the lack of Gundlach's to keep other boaters' oil and bilge waste from continually dropping onto/into my boat, the constant soot build-up from the deisel forklifts, discontinuation of any kind of washdown after removal from the water and damage to boats from poor forklift operation (i.e my transducer being broken off after I had docked).

Regardless of the service, I assume you would be upset if a dockhand ripped an electric device from your hands because he was upset about something you wrote about another business sharing the same facility.

There is no excuse for that. The administration at Gundlach's condoned the employee's actions, making the matter worse.

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Some times one just has to call a spade a spade.
As indicated by your side of the events you are right in calling them scumbags.

Question: How was it that the marina still had your boat when you had paid of the service work several weeks earlier?
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Old 11-03-2004, 03:12 PM
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It might be a bit confusing, but ...

I had the service work done last spring. After I paid for it by credit card, they held the boat until I paid in cash. I finally paid in cash.

The controversy was over, except for the fallout from comments on this and other boating message boards.

All went relatively smoothly (except for the stares by workers) all summer. At the end of the summer, due to the problems (detailed above), I decided to remove the boat permanently. The hurricanes delayed my plans.

Last week, I went there, paid the storage bill in full and asked that the boat be put in the water. I planned to cruise it a couple of miles to the Lake Worth boat ramp and haul it home.

When I discovered the battery was dead, I asked for the jumper box. That is when the dockhand gave me all the abuse and the problem escalated. Hours later, I got the boat home, with no help from thje marina.

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make sure you contact the local chamber of commerce and the BBB in your area.
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The final straw was the lack of Gundlach's to keep other boaters' oil and bilge waste from continually dropping onto/into my boat, the constant soot build-up from the deisel forklifts, discontinuation of any kind of washdown after removal from the water and damage to boats from poor forklift operation (i.e my transducer being broken off after I had docked).
Most of the issues you mention are probably not uncommon at any dry-stack marina. Deisel soot is certainly a likely possibility at indoor facilities. Boats overhead dripping fluids is always possible. And when a forklift operator is lifting a boat out of the water, it's virtually impossible for them to see a submerged transducer on the transom and always avoid hitting it with the forks.

But unreasonable teatment of customers and their boats is inexcusable.
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