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Old 01-10-2011, 06:40 AM
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Hey guys just got an ad velorum personal property tax form in the mail from Georgia (where I bought the boat last year). Problem is that I live in Maryland. Boat was registered in Georgia (transferred from previous owner) and new registration sent to me in Maryland. Now it seems Georgia is trying to tax me on the boat even though I don't live there. Maryland doesn't require military members to register boats for 1 year after coming into the state (and we are moving to another state before that happens). Anyone know how I should resolve this? Any numbers to call to get this straightened out? Tried the Georgia Revenue site but it doesn't tell me much. Should I just pay the tax in Georgia since it is significantly lower than Maryland?
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You will probably still have to pay the tax in Maryland since that is where you live. However, if the boat is in Georgia, then you probably should pay the tax in Georgia and then, if Maryland tries to tax again, argue the boat isn't in Maryland. Where is it located?
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It is in Maryland and registered in Georgia (which is why they sent me the tax form). Maryland doesn't require me to register the boat in Maryland for 1 year after moving there and like I said I will be moving before the year is up. If I don't register it in Maryland they will never know it is there and I use the 1 year rule. I am going to call Georgia and ask them directly.
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You pay the tax in your state of legal residence. Every other state is out unless you spend 90 days a year there. They then want a piece.
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?????? Why in the heck would you even consider paying GA tax for a boat that's no longer in the State?

a. toss the whole bill and forget about it. What can they do except realize that they billed you in error?

b. contact them and spend an inordinate amount of time trying to explain the obvious to a bureaucrat.

ad volorum tax does not apply to items owned and kept in another State...this is a lazy error on Georgia's part to collect money it isn't owed...
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Why don't you call the folks in GA and ask them? Or, the folks in MD?

Unless it's been changed, MD has a one time sales tax on boats, not a personal property tax.

If the boat is kept in MD, I believe you are obligated to pay the sales tax regardless of where it is registered.

Like I said, call them.
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Again thanks for the responses...Ron if you will notice my reply above I said I was going to call Georgia...and have. Got an answering machine. Hopefully she will call me back. Bamaboy, IMO throwing these things away is a good way to have them come after you and usually leads to more headaches than not so I am trying to resolve it rather than blow it off.
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Don't just throw anything away. Some States will place a Tax Lien on your boat.
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Just got off the phone with Georgia Tax Assessor and she said just fill out paperwork saying I no longer live in Georgia and I will be taken off the list. Hooray!
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Don't just throw anything away. Some States will place a Tax Lien on your boat.
OK, following the cowboy logic that I'd have used in that situation...let's say that GA places a tax lien on the boat. So what happens next?

If I sell the boat and I'm not in the State of GA, who cares? If the tax bill was sent to the prior owner, or to me at my MD address, that lien is worthless and unenforceable, IMO. However, let me amend my statement to, "send the notice back to GA with the words across it stating that the boat and you are not in the State...nor will you be." Make copy of it and...then forgetaboutit.

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Ad Valorem tax is paid to the County in Georgia where the boat is located 184 days. If the boat is not located within any Georgia county for that period there should be no tax liability. Sales/ Use tax is another matter.
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I don't know about any exemption for military personell, but A boat that's kept in MD is subject to sales tax on the value of the boat. If you want to chance it, that's one thing, but I know they walk the marinas looking for out of state boats. For a non-marina boat, if a DNR officer sees you at a ramp or on the water with an expired out of state registration sticker and numbers, you may be stopped and you may be in trouble for tax evasion. You should probably clarify your situation with MD also.

MD is pretty observant, unlike SC. I found a note on my vehicle once at Sandy Point stating that the stickers on my trailer tag were reversed and if they saw it again that way, it would be towed. I had to go to the DMV and purchase replacement stickers.
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You'll have to register the boat in MD anyway (and pay the sales tax) so you might as well take care of it. At least MD registration fees are dirt cheap.
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I don't know about any exemption for military personell, but A boat that's kept in MD is subject to sales tax on the value of the boat. If you want to chance it, that's one thing, but I know they walk the marinas looking for out of state boats. For a non-marina boat, if a DNR officer sees you at a ramp or on the water with an expired out of state registration sticker and numbers, you may be stopped and you may be in trouble for tax evasion. You should probably clarify your situation with MD also.

MD is pretty observant, unlike SC. I found a note on my vehicle once at Sandy Point stating that the stickers on my trailer tag were reversed and if they saw it again that way, it would be towed. I had to go to the DMV and purchase replacement stickers.
Ron, I maybe slow today, but what do you mean reversed?
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You'll have to register the boat in MD anyway (and pay the sales tax) so you might as well take care of it. At least MD registration fees are dirt cheap.
fee's are the tax is still 6% of the value . And Md. looks for offenders they check our marina every few months for out of state registration
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fee's are the tax is still 6% of the value . And Md. looks for offenders they check our marina every few months for out of state registration
My boatyard is particularly one to avoid -- there are two DNR boats docked there!
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Yup.....has to be located in GA and the county actually sends the bill...

This is why I will not buy a new boat in Georgia...and keep repowering...probably pay over $1200/yr on a new 31 center console contender..

Really really irritates me....

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Ron, I maybe slow today, but what do you mean reversed?
The month sticker was on the year side and the year sticker was on the month side. Left to right.

It's one of my wife's hobbies (sort of) to notice expired stickers as we drive down the street in SC. Not a day goes by that she doesn't see one or two (or more). You would think the police would stop them because no current registration would be a ticket and probably also means no insurance.
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Hey guys, actually the boat registration in Georgia is still valid and the Md tax law gives military personnel 1 year to register the boat in Md and pay the sales tax. I have had the boat here since May and have never been cited or told that I have to register the boat. I am moving in March so it makes no sense to register it in Md and pay the sales tax only to turn around and have to do the same in CT. I didn't write the law, MD did....
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