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Old 01-03-2011, 12:31 PM
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Jay, We live in Cape Coral, we've lived in Tampa and Ft Lauderdale and would not trade back the Cape has fantastic boating and Gulf access from 150K to over 14mill, give us a shout 239-220-3333. Hugh
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I've been in SW Florida for 25 years and couldn't imagine being anywhere else. Moved down here in 1985 from Kentucky/Indiana. SW Florida is a little quieter than many other parts of the state but I kind of like it that way. I'm in Naples and it's definitely home. Yes, the economy has sucked for some time...yes, foreclosures are at an all time high and yes, many industries are suffering. But I, along with many others out there, am becoming tired of being so gun-shy about getting back to some "normalcy" regarding spending and quality of life. If you can afford to make the move right now, pull the trigger and make it happen. At 39 years old (recently married for the first time & just got news of a baby on the way), I'm just starting to grasp the idea that life is a lot shorter than I thought and that you really need to "seize the day". Best of luck with your decision making and if my neck of the woods appeals to you, PM me with any questions.
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You want the best of both worlds? Pick Satellite Beach or Cocoa Beach area. With the Space Shuttle program shutting down, I imagine you can get waterfront canal homes for next to nothing, plus you're living on the beach. Great inshore and offshore fishing. Low cost of living. Not much traffic.
Satellite Beach is a great place. That's where I stay when in Melbourne, which is often.
Dont go to WYNNFIELDS though. Great bar, lots of fun for me for something over twenty years. Was called the ROCKET due to it's locale as to Patrick A.F.B.
They serve beer that the bottles are only half full.
I believe that because otherwise, after a days fishing, I couldn't possobly drink that many beers.
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:04 PM
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After being on THT for a while, if you are serious about moving to Florida, I would suggest you prepare to say good bye to your boat unless you use:

tripled hardened chains and locks
4 armed guards on patrol 24 x 7, 4 in towers, 8 total
4 hidden gps units, lo-jack
20 foot high enclosure made of 6 inch hardened steel topped by razor wire
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a pack of starving rabid rottweilers living inside the boat enclosure and 100 pissed off rattlesnakes living on the boat.

...then it might be safe for a week or two.
Especially the guys in the Miami area.

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Old 01-03-2011, 08:05 PM
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hey jay, i have lived in Martin County my whole life and can honestly say its where i will always call home if it is up to me. We can go anywhere pass 7 miles out for pelagics and then drive 20 minutes when we get home to get deer, hogs, and others. Ontop on top of that we dont have traffic and tall ass buildingseverywhere. We can take our river all the way thru lake o to the gulf if u got a few extra dayz on ur hands as well as fish inshore on the indian river lagoon. Waterfront isnt cheap but ur range scores u a nice house on the water.
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ps i was in the bahamas in two hrs this summer and once you fish there...
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Old 01-03-2011, 09:12 PM
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I am a Realtor too. As you will soon learn everyone in Florida is a Realtor.
And a great many, if not most, are starving. Don't let ANY realtor or anybody else tell you that the worst is over in FL real estate. In a few select areas, maybe. In the SW corner of the state, definitely not.

(And realtors....I'm NOT talking to or about the guys who have posted in this thread, but down here some of our local RE boys and girls are trying to talk like we're headed back. A look at the sales figures will put the lie to that in a hurry.)
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:03 AM
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After much of your feedback and the feedback of a realtor, we are definitely renting for a year or so. I talked with the wife and she is really flexible with location. She actually liked the idea of renting in the Keys the most. We talked figured its only a short commitment so we might try it out. What do you guys think of Big Pine Key for a rental? Any good sources for rental properties?

I also wandered now the internet speed is down there. My wife relies on her computer for work and needs good speed. Also, the first rental searches i have done are on a web site: vrbo.com. All of the properties state that there is 12.5 % tax. Is this for vacation rental or all rentals.

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After much of your feedback and the feedback of a realtor, we are definitely renting for a year or so. I talked with the wife and she is really flexible with location. She actually liked the idea of renting in the Keys the most. We talked figured its only a short commitment so we might try it out. What do you guys think of Big Pine Key for a rental? Any good sources for rental properties?

I also wandered now the internet speed is down there. My wife relies on her computer for work and needs good speed. Also, the first rental searches i have done are on a web site: vrbo.com. All of the properties state that there is 12.5 % tax. Is this for vacation rental or all rentals.

thanks again
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Sadly, my feelings go with KPS as to the home market in Florida. I sure wish he was wrong, but I dont think so.
Renting in the keys will be enjoyable. No doubt about that.
Renting is a good idea as to the keys in particular.
When the "Keys Thing" wears off, and the reality of life in the keys sets in, I think you'll find renting first a good idea.
I love the keys. I'm not all that fond of the lower keys as compared to the upper keys. My favorite area is Islamorada. I spend as much time there as I can.
You can, for certain, find a rental that will please you and get a handle on all of it before you buy.
Good decision I think.
GOOD LUCK, WELCOME TO FLORIDA!

Oh, BTW, BE SURE TO BUY A BOAT, A PRO-LINE WOULD BE MY PREFERANCE, BUT, WHATEVER THE BRAND, BUY A BOAT RIGHT AWAY.
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Both coasts have their good and bad. When I came to Fl, we could live anywhere we wanted and chose a community called South Gulf Cove on the West coast. It's a canal community with 55 miles of canals and our own lock to eliminate tidal concerns. It's always high tide in our canals.
Look South Gulf Cove up on the internet.
It has all you asked for except the "walking" to beaches. Great beaches are within short driving distances. We're just south of Sarasota, and north of Ft Meyers.
Good inshore and offshore fishing without the major crowds of the East coast. Plenty of good lots and homes available without being considered a place that's in tough shape like Cape Coral.
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If you choose to ignore the warning and are looking for a place to stay, there are some lovely apartments in the Ft. Harrison area of Clearwater. If you don't have a collared shirt and tie, one will be issued to you.
That right there is a good one.
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After much of your feedback and the feedback of a realtor, we are definitely renting for a year or so. I talked with the wife and she is really flexible with location. She actually liked the idea of renting in the Keys the most. We talked figured its only a short commitment so we might try it out. What do you guys think of Big Pine Key for a rental? Any good sources for rental properties?

I also wandered now the internet speed is down there. My wife relies on her computer for work and needs good speed. Also, the first rental searches i have done are on a web site: vrbo.com. All of the properties state that there is 12.5 % tax. Is this for vacation rental or all rentals.

thanks again
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Big Pine Key is great. My family had a rental on a canal there for a while. It was great. If you get one on a canal try to be near the mouth of the canal. Less idling to the bigger water and fresher water than the end of the canal. Islamorada is great also. The only issue I had with the Keys was how long it took to there from SC. Cocoa Beach has been a good compromise for my family. It is a great area also. Low crime and you can walk almost everywhere (restaurants, bars, and so on) since it is such a small area.
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:41 AM
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Both coasts have their good and bad. When I came to Fl, we could live anywhere we wanted and chose a community called South Gulf Cove on the West coast. It's a canal community with 55 miles of canals and our own lock to eliminate tidal concerns. It's always high tide in our canals.
Look South Gulf Cove up on the internet.
It has all you asked for except the "walking" to beaches. Great beaches are within short driving distances. We're just south of Sarasota, and north of Ft Meyers.
Good inshore and offshore fishing without the major crowds of the East coast. Plenty of good lots and homes available without being considered a place that's in tough shape like Cape Coral.
HOAs,..OUCH!!! Just what I want to avoid most!

To the OP this brings up a good point. Many newer area have HOAs which you may want to avoid like the plague. The concept is a good one but you end up with a very small group of old people driving around looking for you to do something wrong. Want to repaint your house? Better get written approval of the color before you do! Going to be out of town for 2 or 3 weeks? Better get someone to mow your lawn or you will be fined. Some places don't allow young people to own homes there. If you have kids, get old and die, they have to sell the house because they aren't allowed to own property there until 55yo. You get the drift.
The upside is there is no chance of some dirtbag moving into the neighborhood and letting his yard become a jungle, parking 16 non-running cars in his yard, etc. There are also dues to pay which may be substantial, or minimal depending on the place. These take care of the common areas, as well as the administration of the rules by the HOA. Changing HOA rules takes an act of congress. Just something you should be aware of. Very popular in newer developments in FL.

I prefer a more rural arrangement and a live and let live attitude toward the neighbors. In fact if they will leave me alone I'll leave them alone.
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Sadly, my feelings go with KPS as to the home market in Florida. I sure wish he was wrong, but I dont think so.
Renting in the keys will be enjoyable. No doubt about that.
Renting is a good idea as to the keys in particular.
When the "Keys Thing" wears off, and the reality of life in the keys sets in, I think you'll find renting first a good idea.
I love the keys. I'm not all that fond of the lower keys as compared to the upper keys. My favorite area is Islamorada. I spend as much time there as I can.
You can, for certain, find a rental that will please you and get a handle on all of it before you buy.
Good decision I think.
GOOD LUCK, WELCOME TO FLORIDA!

Oh, BTW, BE SURE TO BUY A BOAT, A PRO-LINE WOULD BE MY PREFERANCE, BUT, WHATEVER THE BRAND, BUY A BOAT RIGHT AWAY.
Yes indeed !!!! The boat WILL be the first order of business. I am already shopping in the Florida and surrounding market !!!
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Yes indeed !!!! The boat WILL be the first order of business. I am already shopping in the Florida and surrounding market !!!
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Thanks for your input. When I first moved from Delaware to New York I was overwhelmed and though NYers were rude. After about 5 years in NY I would go back to DE and be bored to tears...way too slow.

Lived in NY for 10 years total. I have now been in Cali for 6 months in the SF bay area and let me tell you....I would take NYers back in a heartbeat. The SF bay people are rude in a totally SMUG way. I really think NYers are just always in a rush...its not that they are trying to be rude.


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You were in the wrong bay try San Diego, I've lived in So Ca for 62 years and I wouldn't want to live in SF, it's known that their snooty. Plus the weather is crap. The good Ca starts at Cambria and goes south. Or maybe it's just you.
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if you are really considering the keys rental my boss has a house for sale but would definately like the concept of keeping it and renting it thru these hard times. i am not YET a realtor so i am not doing this for any self benefits. it is on mile marker 17 sugarloaf key and is an awesome waterfront piece. i do believe he has it listed on realtor.com but i am not a 100% on that. if you are seriously interested feel free to call me. and no i am not advertising this or anything just helping out a fellow tht'er. call me at 7724861378 anytime and being as i am there at least a week a mnth i can help u with any other questions you have about any of the keys. best of luck.
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Sadly, my feelings go with KPS as to the home market in Florida. I sure wish he was wrong, but I dont think so.
Renting in the keys will be enjoyable. No doubt about that.
Renting is a good idea as to the keys in particular.
When the "Keys Thing" wears off, and the reality of life in the keys sets in, I think you'll find renting first a good idea.
I love the keys. I'm not all that fond of the lower keys as compared to the upper keys. My favorite area is Islamorada. I spend as much time there as I can.
You can, for certain, find a rental that will please you and get a handle on all of it before you buy.
Good decision I think.
GOOD LUCK, WELCOME TO FLORIDA!

Oh, BTW, BE SURE TO BUY A BOAT, A PRO-LINE WOULD BE MY PREFERANCE, BUT, WHATEVER THE BRAND, BUY A BOAT RIGHT AWAY.
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You were in the wrong bay try San Diego, I've lived in So Ca for 62 years and I wouldn't want to live in SF, it's known that their snooty. Plus the weather is crap. The good Ca starts at Cambria and goes south. Or maybe it's just you.
I am really, really offended by your comment. There is NOTHING wrong with me ("Or maybe it's just you.")

Just kidding. I have heard that SO CAL is (completely!!) and substantially different. That being said, I still do not want to pay the California Sunshine TAX. I just don't get it.

I am looking for less tax and more American. I would love to come down to San Diego and take a ride but I am still skeptical about my future cost of living in CA. Also I feel like I am coming closer to the border (Californians don't keep it safe) which our great ultra-left liberal politicians will let collapse into the the California interior.

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