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Old 09-22-2010, 05:58 AM
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Looking to buy my 1st boat, sport cat 27 with 2 130hp Honda motors.
Any feed back on these motors would be appreciated!
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I wouldn't! Those engines had/have ALOT of problems! Lots of recalls for new powerheads & everything else! You should do some research to see what I am talking about! Thought I would give you a "heads-up"!
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I have one 1999 model with 950 hours. Runs great but I do have an alarm issue which sounds sometmes signaling overheat but all I do is restart and the problem goes away. It might be a bad sensor dealer isn't sure.I am currently replacing the impeller as a maintenance item as I bought the boat used last year and don't know when it was last replaced.
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Thank you for the heads-up!
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Do a full background on the motors in question. Honda did have a recall on the 130s in a certain year range. They repaired the ones that needed it and issued a 10 year extended warranty. I'm not aware of any other problems. We had one on a boat that we no longer have (moved up in size) and it never missed a beat. (it was in the year range and was recalled. No problem) The 130 is generally thought of as pretty bullet proof. The year of the motor is the key.
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Thank you granpa...
To do a full background would require looking up the engine serial number and seeing if it would be on the recall list. Then try to find paperwork from one of the owners to see if the engine was repaired?
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no go on the 130. They had to redesign it - it is now the honda 135. significant number of the 130's suffered from problems with cracked exhaust passages and cracks in the block. The problems seemed to be confined to a specific production run. You need to get the serial number off the engine(s) and check to see if they were the problematic ones. FYI, honda did replace a number of the blocks on the 130s, but I don't think the problem with the exhaust passages was ever formally addressed. One local honda mechanic told me that many of the 130s he sees have this issue.
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Yes. The current owner should have the paperwork. Honda also has it on record. There is (was) a list of the serial numbers in that range on the web. It might even be on this site. I'm on a laptop and phone connection so it is a chore for me right now.
Honda is a terrific product so it is worth it to do the background to calm your fears if you like the boat.
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Thank you everyone!
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I had one of the 130's with the block and head cracks. Honda replaced the entire powerhead. Motor always ran great for me, but other guys I know I had issues with cracked exhaust passages that allowed saltwater intrusion that caked up and clogged the entire exhaust system. Pic below.
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The powerhead issues have been pretty well documented and the serial numbers that were effected are definitely on the site. My own experience with a 2002 BF130 has been very positive -- that said, I've only had it one season...

My feeling is that if your transom can handle the weight, it should be a pretty safe bet. Everything I’ve read/heard is that they are about as reliable as you can get. Corrosion may be and issue thought, but that is something you should be able to get a decent read on visually, I’d think.
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From my experience it is almost all of the 130s. I am looking for a replacement for one with a cracked block and every motor I check is affected when I ask the dealer to look it up.
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From a HondaDude 2003 post about the serial numbers recalled for the bad casting.

BF115: BZBD 1000001 - 1200270
BZBG 1000001 - 1200000

BF130: BZBE 1000001 - 1201321
BZBH 1000001 - 1200180

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My serial numbers are:
BZBH1200182
BZBH1101600

It looks to me like the last serial # is on the recall.
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I have had a number of problems with mine, but overall it is ok.

An oil tube cracked and had to be replaced. I ran across others who had this problem.

The steering arm and related parts are substantially rusted. I ran across others with this problem.

I am getting some water leakage through the exhaust that will be fixed over the winter. Per the comments above, others have had this problem.

You might get some additional information here:

http://www.marineengine.com/boat-for...Outboard-Forum
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I have one 1999 model with 950 hours. Runs great but I do have an alarm issue which sounds sometmes signaling overheat but all I do is restart and the problem goes away. It might be a bad sensor dealer isn't sure.I am currently replacing the impeller as a maintenance item as I bought the boat used last year and don't know when it was last replaced.
I had the same problem with my 99 130. Changed the thermostat - no more problem.
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I beleive that vintage of 115 and 130 were very heavy. Newer engines are considerably lighter.
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You are right about the weight - the 130 weighs around 600 lbs.
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Some misinformation here along with some good. Weight? The 130, from first year to last, weighed same, ranging from 495 to max 514 (depended on shaft length, etc.) No where near 600.

The steering arm rust does exist, on a bunch of Hondas, not just 130s, but it is only surface rust, nothing serious.

The block issues are described pretty well already. granpafish is giving you correct info about that.

Honda did not "have to" redesign the 130 and create the 135. That was part of their planned redo of the entire engine line, starting at the top (225) and working down. The 115-130 were redone, I think, around 2005 or maybe 2006. Last were the 90 and 75 about 18 months or so ago. The newer 115-135, BTW, weigh 478-492, so while a nice reduction, it's not that huge or anything.
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I must be living a charmed life as my pair have over 3000 hrs without a problem. They were inspected and given the 10 year warranty on the block. They run just as sweet as the day I bought em. What are the symtoms (sp)
of the exhaust problems? It would be good info for any future problems as I don't plan on replacing them until problems occur.
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